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 Battle of Britain, Continuation
Wingman
Posted: Apr 2 2008, 07:30 PM


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In honor of the celebration of the 90th anniversary of the RAF, which was yesterday, I put this fight up: if Hitler had not stopped his air campaign against the British Isles and continued to try to bomb the civilian targets into submission, would the RAF been able to hold them off? Let's say that they have to hold off until mid January, which from October 10, would mean that they have to hold out, in any way shape, or form, for three months before the Germans leave. Will the Luftwaffe win air superiority over the Isles, or will Winston Churchill and the iron will of the British people hold? Your call!!!


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War produces classic remarks by military commanders; on February 26, 1991, the US 1st Armored Division, the famous Big Red One, encountered the allegedly elite Iraqi Republican Guard. The divisional commander, Major General Ronald Griffiths, radioed his deputy, who was riding with the armored spearhead. "I understand we are engaging the Medina Division?" he said, referring to one of the crack Iraqi Guard divisions. "Negative, sir," came the reply. "We are destroying the Medina Division."
Great proof that despite their quantity, the Soviet tanks that NATO planners feared above all else could be shredded by the M1 Abrams, Challenger 2, Leopard 2, LeClerc, Ariete, and Merkava with ease. Patton would be proud.

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hamboy
Posted: Apr 2 2008, 08:18 PM


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Well, he stopped for a reason. He had taken a sore beating at the hands of the RAF that day. Continuing would have just f*cked his airforce up more... wouldn't it?
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Wingman
Posted: Apr 3 2008, 01:39 AM


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QUOTE (hamboy @ Apr 2 2008, 04:18 PM)
Well, he stopped for a reason. He had taken a sore beating at the hands of the RAF that day. Continuing would have just f*cked his airforce up more... wouldn't it?

I personally believe that the British had the will and certainly the manpower to resist further attacks, but you never know. Hilter was losing many planes and aircrews, true, but he really stopped because he got impatient that Operation Sealion wasn't commencing on schedule, and he wanted to concentrate all his attention on Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union, the biggest, dumbest, craziest mistake the mustached artist from Vienna ever did. And it cost him dearly.


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"Never in the course of human history has so much been owed by so many to so few."- Winston Churchill, commenting on the heroic struggles of the RAF against the German Luftwaffe.

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I don't smoke, I don't chew... and I don't date girls who do.

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War produces classic remarks by military commanders; on February 26, 1991, the US 1st Armored Division, the famous Big Red One, encountered the allegedly elite Iraqi Republican Guard. The divisional commander, Major General Ronald Griffiths, radioed his deputy, who was riding with the armored spearhead. "I understand we are engaging the Medina Division?" he said, referring to one of the crack Iraqi Guard divisions. "Negative, sir," came the reply. "We are destroying the Medina Division."
Great proof that despite their quantity, the Soviet tanks that NATO planners feared above all else could be shredded by the M1 Abrams, Challenger 2, Leopard 2, LeClerc, Ariete, and Merkava with ease. Patton would be proud.

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Buzz Line
Posted: Apr 3 2008, 02:11 AM


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I think he would of been better off with a land invasion. Then again I don't want to imagine Germany beating Britain so I'm glad he stuck to the air and lost.


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hamboy
Posted: Apr 3 2008, 02:26 AM


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QUOTE (Buzz Line @ Apr 3 2008, 02:11 AM)
I think he would of been better off with a land invasion. Then again I don't want to imagine Germany beating Britain so I'm glad he stuck to the air and lost.

Problem with an attempted land invasion is that, at the time, our Navy was a fuggin beast. Britain pretty much had a definate Naval superiority at the time.
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Wingman
Posted: Apr 3 2008, 12:47 PM


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QUOTE (hamboy @ Apr 2 2008, 10:26 PM)
QUOTE (Buzz Line @ Apr 3 2008, 02:11 AM)
I think he would of been better off with a land invasion. Then again I don't want to imagine Germany beating Britain so I'm glad he stuck to the air and lost.

Problem with an attempted land invasion is that, at the time, our Navy was a fuggin beast. Britain pretty much had a definate Naval superiority at the time.

Absolutely. Hilter wasn't willing to try an amphib. operation unless he had definite air superiority. Otherwise, the Royal Navy would shred the hundreds of lightly armored, slow moving transport craft. I almost wish they had gone through with it, just to see that curpstomp.


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"Never in the course of human history has so much been owed by so many to so few."- Winston Churchill, commenting on the heroic struggles of the RAF against the German Luftwaffe.

----
I don't smoke, I don't chew... and I don't date girls who do.

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War produces classic remarks by military commanders; on February 26, 1991, the US 1st Armored Division, the famous Big Red One, encountered the allegedly elite Iraqi Republican Guard. The divisional commander, Major General Ronald Griffiths, radioed his deputy, who was riding with the armored spearhead. "I understand we are engaging the Medina Division?" he said, referring to one of the crack Iraqi Guard divisions. "Negative, sir," came the reply. "We are destroying the Medina Division."
Great proof that despite their quantity, the Soviet tanks that NATO planners feared above all else could be shredded by the M1 Abrams, Challenger 2, Leopard 2, LeClerc, Ariete, and Merkava with ease. Patton would be proud.

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boston_celtics
Posted: Apr 3 2008, 01:45 PM


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The British had limited resources and would have collapsed eventually to the stronger Germans, due to the fact Germany hsd the man power and the resources. But Hitler didn't push forward because

1. He was getting pimp slapped.

2. All resources were being devoted to the invasion of Russia.

But you know, in my opinion, had the Germans finished off the British at Dunkirk, England would have collapsed.


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Wingman
Posted: Apr 3 2008, 02:14 PM


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QUOTE (boston_celtics @ Apr 3 2008, 09:45 AM)
The British had limited resources and would have collapsed eventually to the stronger Germans, due to the fact Germany hsd the man power and the resources. But Hitler didn't push forward because

1. He was getting pimp slapped.

2. All resources were being devoted to the invasion of Russia.

But you know, in my opinion, had the Germans finished off the British at Dunkirk, England would have collapsed.

I agree that Dunkirk would've sealed it. But one thing: Hitler made the crucial mistake in middle of September to switch around the clock bombing from military installations and RAF targets to civilian targets because of British reprisal to an accidental attack on London. This switch happened RIGHT when the RAF was stretched to it's limit and couldn't have gone much longer before collapsing. Hilter screwed himself with this mistake. Thinking it would break the resolve of the British people, they instead just became more determined to beat the Luftwaffe. And during this, Fighter Command was able to give it's pilots and crews rest from the relentless assault. Given a breather to repair, rearm, and build more planes, the Spitfires and Hurricanes took to the air again against the Luftwaffe. The rest, as they say, is history.


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"Never in the course of human history has so much been owed by so many to so few."- Winston Churchill, commenting on the heroic struggles of the RAF against the German Luftwaffe.

----
I don't smoke, I don't chew... and I don't date girls who do.

----

War produces classic remarks by military commanders; on February 26, 1991, the US 1st Armored Division, the famous Big Red One, encountered the allegedly elite Iraqi Republican Guard. The divisional commander, Major General Ronald Griffiths, radioed his deputy, who was riding with the armored spearhead. "I understand we are engaging the Medina Division?" he said, referring to one of the crack Iraqi Guard divisions. "Negative, sir," came the reply. "We are destroying the Medina Division."
Great proof that despite their quantity, the Soviet tanks that NATO planners feared above all else could be shredded by the M1 Abrams, Challenger 2, Leopard 2, LeClerc, Ariete, and Merkava with ease. Patton would be proud.

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