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 Perfect Form of Goverment.
Solomon
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:18 PM


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QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 05:09 PM)
QUOTE (jailer411 @ Feb 5 2009, 10:07 PM)
I think it's pretty much impossible to make a perfect goverment, unless everybody was the same.

Even if everyone was the same, everyone would have to be perfect as well. Once again perfection is an opinion. Which means that even if everyone was the same, it still wouldn't be perfect.

If everyone was the same then tey'd think the same and everybody would agree so it would be perfect.

That wouldn't make it moral though.


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Guardian of Nesh
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:21 PM


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QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 05:18 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 05:09 PM)
QUOTE (jailer411 @ Feb 5 2009, 10:07 PM)
I think it's pretty much impossible to make a perfect goverment, unless everybody was the same.

Even if everyone was the same, everyone would have to be perfect as well. Once again perfection is an opinion. Which means that even if everyone was the same, it still wouldn't be perfect.

If everyone was the same then tey'd think the same and everybody would agree so it would be perfect.

That wouldn't make it moral though.

Morality varies from society to society. If everyone was the same they would have the same morals, making it moral.


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jailer411
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:22 PM


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QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 04:17 PM)

Nothing can be perfect. Perfection is a word because people use it in their fantasies to describe something that is without fault.

If that's true, which it is, you just anwsered your own topic. There is no perfect Government.


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Pseudonym
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:23 PM


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There is no absolute morals.

NO absolute right and wrong.

Just circumstances, and what works under those circumstances.


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Guardian of Nesh
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:24 PM


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QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 5 2009, 05:23 PM)
There is no absolute morals.

NO absolute right and wrong.

Just circumstances, and what works under those circumstances.

I think I kind of covered that.


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jailer411
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:24 PM


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This topic is impossible to anwser, there is no thing as perfection, thus no perfect government.


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Pseudonym
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QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:24 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 5 2009, 05:23 PM)
There is no absolute morals.

NO absolute right and wrong.

Just circumstances, and what works under those circumstances.

I think I kind of covered that.

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I know, but that's my thing, and I love arguing about that, as a matter of fact, that may become an other thread.


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Solomon
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:27 PM


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QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:21 PM)
Morality varies from society to society. If everyone was the same they would have the same morals, making it moral.

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?



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jailer411
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:29 PM


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QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 04:27 PM)

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?

Define morality.


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Guardian of Nesh
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:31 PM


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QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 05:27 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:21 PM)
Morality varies from society to society.  If everyone was the same they would have the same morals, making it moral.

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?

A moral is simoly something a group of people lives by that determines what's accepted as right and wrong.


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'I'm going to die; if this wasteland doesn't kill me the Avatars will. I'm the last Technomancer; as I go so goes my culture.' The thought was serene, not fearful at all. If he was going to die, he'd die fighting; he'd make sure that the Technomancers were never forgotten. Morshan Sakru: The Last Technomancer would be a name all Avatar would shutter at the thought of for etenity. Morshan now knew what happened to a man who had nothing left to live for but vengence: he became a monster.
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Pseudonym
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QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:21 PM)
Morality varies from society to society.  If everyone was the same they would have the same morals, making it moral.

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?

There would be a lot fewer 5 year old girls.

And no one would go to jail for following their beliefs.

The bible every now and then encourages things that are immoral.

I don't want to offend but, I've seen self-mutilation.

"If thy right eye doth offend thee, then pluck it out and cast it from thee."


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Guardian of Nesh
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:33 PM


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QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 5 2009, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:21 PM)
Morality varies from society to society.  If everyone was the same they would have the same morals, making it moral.

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?

There would be a lot fewer 5 year old girls.

And no one would go to jail for following their beliefs.

The bible every now and then encourages things that are immoral.

I don't want to offend but, I've seen self-mutilation.

"If thy right eye doth offend thee, then pluck it out and cast it from thee."

That was the lesser law fulfiiled by Jesus. Now it's if a man striks on the cheek turn the other cheek so they can strike it as well.


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'I'm going to die; if this wasteland doesn't kill me the Avatars will. I'm the last Technomancer; as I go so goes my culture.' The thought was serene, not fearful at all. If he was going to die, he'd die fighting; he'd make sure that the Technomancers were never forgotten. Morshan Sakru: The Last Technomancer would be a name all Avatar would shutter at the thought of for etenity. Morshan now knew what happened to a man who had nothing left to live for but vengence: he became a monster.
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jailer411
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:35 PM


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QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 04:27 PM)

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?

We think that shooting five year old girls is wrong because society taught us that. There are different forms of morality.


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Solomon
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:36 PM


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QUOTE (jailer411 @ Feb 5 2009, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 5 2009, 04:27 PM)

Even if everybody had the same morals, that doesn't mean that their morals are right. What if everyone thought it was moral to shoot 5 year old girls?

Define morality.

You can't. If you actually read through me entire original post you would see that I already covered what you, nesh, and DYGW are saying.


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"The first shot rang out from somewhere and I heard a bullet wiz by my face. With my pump action shotgun ready, I shoot the first fool I see."

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Solomon
Posted: Feb 5 2009, 10:37 PM


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QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Feb 5 2009, 10:31 PM)

A moral is simoly something a group of people lives by that determines what's accepted as right and wrong.

Even if it is generally accepted as right or wrong, that doesn't mean that it is.


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Points:

"The first shot rang out from somewhere and I heard a bullet wiz by my face. With my pump action shotgun ready, I shoot the first fool I see."

Grano's so gangster.
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