zIFBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Join the millions that use us for their forum communities. Create your own forum today.

Learn More · Sign-up for Free
Welcome to Haven Of Wiidom. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Name:   Password:


Pages: (4) 1 [2] 3 4  ( Go to first unread post )

 Lincoln vs Obama
darkender
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 02:44 AM


Mr. Ego


Group: Members
Posts: 7,693
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-January 08



QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 29 2008, 09:43 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 02:30 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 29 2008, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

Did you forget the whwn and where here. Plus there's the Lincoln Douglas debates and the gettysburg address to consider.

Wait could black people vote?

At this point, no.

Well, if Barack is still rich he has a chance but its real close. Unless he just gets killed.


--------------------
Points:A Gazillion almost as much as my swagga
Top
SilverSurfer092
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 02:46 AM


IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!


Group: Admin
Posts: 9,072
Member No.: 67
Joined: 31-July 08



QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 02:30 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 29 2008, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

Did you forget the whwn and where here. Plus there's the Lincoln Douglas debates and the gettysburg address to consider.

Wait could black people vote?

You clearly aren't very good at history. Black people couldn't vote, which if Obama was that good of a speaker, wouldn't matter. He could get white people to vote, but they were all racists. And this is just in the South. NO ONE WINS PEOPLE. God, get that through your thick skulls.


--------------------
Points: OVER 9000!!!!!!
Top
darkender
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 02:52 AM


Mr. Ego


Group: Members
Posts: 7,693
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-January 08



QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 02:30 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 29 2008, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

Did you forget the whwn and where here. Plus there's the Lincoln Douglas debates and the gettysburg address to consider.

Wait could black people vote?

You clearly aren't very good at history. Black people couldn't vote, which if Obama was that good of a speaker, wouldn't matter. He could get white people to vote, but they were all racists. And this is just in the South. NO ONE WINS PEOPLE. God, get that through your thick skulls.

Got that right, I'm not a historian. Anyway, as I said he'll probably end up dead.


--------------------
Points:A Gazillion almost as much as my swagga
Top
Leo Sanders
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 03:52 AM


Monkey King of Haven


Group: Members
Posts: 3,116
Member No.: 42
Joined: 16-June 08



Lincoln in a stomp. Seriously, Obama would have been killed.


--------------------
Never give up! 08-05-92

user posted image

Points:
Top
Mimi soulja
  Posted: Dec 30 2008, 04:06 AM


Unregistered









OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!
Top
SilverSurfer092
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 04:12 AM


IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!


Group: Admin
Posts: 9,072
Member No.: 67
Joined: 31-July 08



QUOTE (Mimi soulja @ Dec 30 2008, 04:06 AM)
OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!

No. He would lose. Miserably.


--------------------
Points: OVER 9000!!!!!!
Top
Bassetman
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM


Gentleman Skeleton


Group: Admin
Posts: 4,701
Member No.: 20
Joined: 14-January 08



QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?


--------------------
Top
SilverSurfer092
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM


IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!


Group: Admin
Posts: 9,072
Member No.: 67
Joined: 31-July 08



QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.


--------------------
Points: OVER 9000!!!!!!
Top
granobulax
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 05:17 AM


He's even got his hand over where I live...


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,880
Member No.: 35
Joined: 31-May 08



QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.

Back then Presidents won because of their actual credintianls. How they were quoted in the newspapers is what people across the country saw. In todays superficial world, Lincoln wouldn't have stood a chance of winning the Presidency.


--------------------
Points:


I scare little kids.
user posted image

QUOTE (treacherous @ Aug 16 2008, 12:12 PM)
RRRAOAAOAOAORRARRAA!!...  Blue lights and sirens rang through the night!! Yeah, they all wanna kill each other... HERE ME CITY!! THE STREETS BELONG TO THE GANGS NOW!! THIS IS THE NEW ORDER!! PREPARE FOR CHAOS!!

Solomon and I may be gangsta, but treach is the gangsta of the year!
Top
Leo Sanders
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 06:08 AM


Monkey King of Haven


Group: Members
Posts: 3,116
Member No.: 42
Joined: 16-June 08



QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 05:17 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.

Back then Presidents won because of their actual credintianls. How they were quoted in the newspapers is what people across the country saw. In todays superficial world, Lincoln wouldn't have stood a chance of winning the Presidency.

True.

Dam youtube.


--------------------
Never give up! 08-05-92

user posted image

Points:
Top
darkender
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 06:20 AM


Mr. Ego


Group: Members
Posts: 7,693
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-January 08



QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 05:17 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.

Back then Presidents won because of their actual credintianls. How they were quoted in the newspapers is what people across the country saw. In todays superficial world, Lincoln wouldn't have stood a chance of winning the Presidency.

YEs! I was correct!


--------------------
Points:A Gazillion almost as much as my swagga
Top
granobulax
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 08:53 AM


He's even got his hand over where I live...


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,880
Member No.: 35
Joined: 31-May 08



QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 06:20 AM)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 05:17 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.

Back then Presidents won because of their actual credintianls. How they were quoted in the newspapers is what people across the country saw. In todays superficial world, Lincoln wouldn't have stood a chance of winning the Presidency.

YEs! I was correct!

No, you were wrong. The reason Lincoln won was because he was a great speaker. The newspapers were the only communication for the vast majority of the country; no tv to see his face on. The fact that he was a very ugly man by today's standards would have made listening to him on the tv a difficult task for most non-educated people in todays world.

I was merely commenting on how Presidents won because of what they were about, not because of how they looked.Television has vastly changed how polititions are elected in this country today.

Here, to help prove my point, back in 1960, John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon squared off in some of the greatest debates this country has ever seen. When the votes for those who saw the debates on tv came in, Kennedy won handily. When the votes for those who listened to the debates on the radio came in, Nixon won handily.

Actually seeing the candidate makes a huge difference.

In this case here, Obama would have lost handily because the news of him being black would have reached every southerner. With it being a time of definate inequality, it would have been an ugly loss.


--------------------
Points:


I scare little kids.
user posted image

QUOTE (treacherous @ Aug 16 2008, 12:12 PM)
RRRAOAAOAOAORRARRAA!!...  Blue lights and sirens rang through the night!! Yeah, they all wanna kill each other... HERE ME CITY!! THE STREETS BELONG TO THE GANGS NOW!! THIS IS THE NEW ORDER!! PREPARE FOR CHAOS!!

Solomon and I may be gangsta, but treach is the gangsta of the year!
Top
darkender
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 03:44 PM


Mr. Ego


Group: Members
Posts: 7,693
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-January 08



QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 08:53 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 06:20 AM)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 05:17 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.

Back then Presidents won because of their actual credintianls. How they were quoted in the newspapers is what people across the country saw. In todays superficial world, Lincoln wouldn't have stood a chance of winning the Presidency.

YEs! I was correct!

No, you were wrong. The reason Lincoln won was because he was a great speaker. The newspapers were the only communication for the vast majority of the country; no tv to see his face on. The fact that he was a very ugly man by today's standards would have made listening to him on the tv a difficult task for most non-educated people in todays world.

I was merely commenting on how Presidents won because of what they were about, not because of how they looked.Television has vastly changed how polititions are elected in this country today.

Here, to help prove my point, back in 1960, John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon squared off in some of the greatest debates this country has ever seen. When the votes for those who saw the debates on tv came in, Kennedy won handily. When the votes for those who listened to the debates on the radio came in, Nixon won handily.

Actually seeing the candidate makes a huge difference.

In this case here, Obama would have lost handily because the news of him being black would have reached every southerner. With it being a time of definate inequality, it would have been an ugly loss.

But to today's standards wouldn't Lincoln be a bad speaker compared to Obama?


--------------------
Points:A Gazillion almost as much as my swagga
Top
Solomon
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 04:40 PM


Head Admin


Group: Admin
Posts: 7,680
Member No.: 3
Joined: 9-January 08



QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

*cough Gettysburgh Address *cough


--------------------

Points:

"The first shot rang out from somewhere and I heard a bullet wiz by my face. With my pump action shotgun ready, I shoot the first fool I see."

Grano's so gangster.
Top
Bassetman
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 05:47 PM


Gentleman Skeleton


Group: Admin
Posts: 4,701
Member No.: 20
Joined: 14-January 08



QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 03:44 PM)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 08:53 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 06:20 AM)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Dec 30 2008, 05:17 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Dec 30 2008, 04:57 AM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Dec 30 2008, 04:50 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Dec 30 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Dec 30 2008, 01:52 AM)
Abraham Lincoln vs Barack Obama in the elections of 1860, who wins more votes IN THE SOUTH?  This one should be a little harder as historicly Lincoln wasn't on southern ballots and the south would not vote for a black man at this time.

Barack would destroy him since Lincoln was a terrible speaker.

I'd heard he was the exact opposite?

I heard Lincoln was quite the good speaker as well.

Back then Presidents won because of their actual credintianls. How they were quoted in the newspapers is what people across the country saw. In todays superficial world, Lincoln wouldn't have stood a chance of winning the Presidency.

YEs! I was correct!

No, you were wrong. The reason Lincoln won was because he was a great speaker. The newspapers were the only communication for the vast majority of the country; no tv to see his face on. The fact that he was a very ugly man by today's standards would have made listening to him on the tv a difficult task for most non-educated people in todays world.

I was merely commenting on how Presidents won because of what they were about, not because of how they looked.Television has vastly changed how polititions are elected in this country today.

Here, to help prove my point, back in 1960, John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon squared off in some of the greatest debates this country has ever seen. When the votes for those who saw the debates on tv came in, Kennedy won handily. When the votes for those who listened to the debates on the radio came in, Nixon won handily.

Actually seeing the candidate makes a huge difference.

In this case here, Obama would have lost handily because the news of him being black would have reached every southerner. With it being a time of definate inequality, it would have been an ugly loss.

But to today's standards wouldn't Lincoln be a bad speaker compared to Obama?

No, he's just not superficially..endowed well.


--------------------
Top
« Next Oldest | Normal Fights | Next Newest »
zIFBoards - Free Forum Hosting
zIFBoards gives you all the tools to create a successful discussion community.
Learn More · Sign-up for Free

Topic OptionsPages: (4) 1 [2] 3 4 



Hosted for free by zIFBoards* (Terms of Use: Updated 2/10/2010) | Powered by Invision Power Board v1.3 Final © 2003 IPS, Inc.
Page creation time: 0.0398 seconds · Archive