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Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 12:49 AM
I was just at a basket ball park minding my own business when a kid who I just talk to once in a while came walking towards me and with a grin on his face said "Hey sexy what ya up to?" Yeah I know I was shocked that he was gay too.

But thats not the end. After I told him to go away he walked over to me smacked my well anus...... Then his parents came by and he told me " Next time same place dude." He then left.

So what should I do?!?!

Note: Please no inappropriate posts. I dont want this getting locked again. sleep.gif

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:12 AM
ohmy.gif laugh.gif Sorry... yeah... well just make sure he knows you are NOT gay. That's all you can really do.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:14 AM
Avoid him, and next time show up with a girl... kissing her. Where: is your choice.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:22 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:14 AM)
Avoid him, and next time show up with a girl... kissing her. Where: is your choice.

laugh.gif That works too!

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:22 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:14 AM)
Avoid him, and next time show up with a girl... kissing her. Where: is your choice.

..... Dude I cant even get a date to a sockhop. Oh and I told him. He doesnt care. He still does it.

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 01:23 AM
Tell him you're not interested. If he continues he's a prick. Simple. Same goes if a girl you don't like does it.

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:24 AM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 01:23 AM)
Tell him you're not interested. If he continues he's a prick. Simple. Same goes if a girl you don't like does it.

Thanks for the only useful advice Hammy.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:25 AM
I tried. sad.gif

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:14 AM)
Avoid him, and next time show up with a girl... kissing her. Where: is your choice.

Hahahahaha. Wow. I like how he calls US jerks. How about you rub the fact that you are "accepted by society" a little bit more in his face? Yeah, smart idea. Or you could think "maybe he's joking around". I make gay jokes with my friends and people in general a lot. If he is actually gay, you are 13. You guys don't even have hormones yet. And then just tell him to go away.



Or put spikes in your butt pockets. But handle it like a mature kid. Not some prick who shoves his sexual orientation back in his face. That's wrong. Judge Death, next time you call one of us mean, I swear to God, I'll get you to leave again.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:27 AM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 01:23 AM)
Tell him you're not interested. If he continues he's a prick. Simple. Same goes if a girl you don't like does it.

Yup. In fact I have had the same problem. Except I think he was faking it to embarass me... either way it's being a jerk. I ended up beating the guy up but... that should be a last resort. unsure.gif

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:30 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:27 AM)
Yup.  In fact I have had the same problem.  Except I think he was faking it to embarass me... either way it's being a jerk.  I ended up beating the guy up but... that should be a last resort.  unsure.gif

Since when has being gay and different become being a jerk? Are you people really that inconsiderate and intolerant? I figure the intolerant people should be quarantined, not the gays. At least that way, your ignorance and overall failure at being a good person is contained.

Posted by: videogameman Apr 18 2009, 01:32 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:30 AM)
Since when has being gay and different become being a jerk? Are you people really that inconsiderate and intolerant? Most of the time, I figure the intolerant people should be quarantined, not the gays. At least that way, your ignorance and overall failure at being a good person is contained.

No, I think it was the fact that the guy wouldn't leave Grunt alone despite him telling the guy he's not intrested. I can understand your anger. Everyone should have thier rights. But i think you're misintrepreting Grunt's statement.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:32 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:30 AM)
Since when has being gay and different become being a jerk? Are you people really that inconsiderate and intolerant? I figure the intolerant people should be quarantined, not the gays. At least that way, your ignorance and overall failure at being a good person is contained.

He WASN'T gay. He was faking it in order to embarass me and make me feel uncomfortable. dry.gif

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:33 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:32 AM)
He WASN'T gay. He was faking it in order to embarass me and make me feel uncomfortable. dry.gif

Well, my point still stands. And I still disagree with beating him up.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:34 AM
Dude it's a joke. Go along with it.

"I'll make out with you, but only if your lips are covered in squirrel blood."

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:34 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:33 AM)
Well, my point still stands. And I still disagree with beating him up.

He started the fight. angry.gif

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:35 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:32 AM)
He WASN'T gay. He was faking it in order to embarass me and make me feel uncomfortable. dry.gif

What does that have to do with my problem?!? The guy really is gay!!! Now I got pricks at my school calling me a gay lover.

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 01:36 AM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:34 AM)
Dude it's a joke. Go along with it.

"I'll make out with you, but only if your lips are covered in squirrel blood."

laugh.gif

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:34 AM)
He started the fight. angry.gif

Doesn't mean you have to end it.

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 AM)
Doesn't mean you have to end it.

Yeah just deal with it and move on. Its not worth your time.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:35 AM)
What does that have to do with my problem?!? The guy really is gay!!! Now I got pricks at my school calling me a gay lover.

How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:41 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:42 AM
Straight up tell him off. Start using 092 level Sarcasm. Those who call you gay, just say something like--"TASTE THE RAINBOW BICHES"

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:43 AM
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 01:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

1) I helped, or tried to
2) Use humor, it works often.

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:43 AM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:42 AM)
Straight up tell him off. Start using 092 level Sarcasm. Those who call you gay, just say something like--"TASTE THE RAINBOW BICHES"

Okay take that back. Da, Hammy, Ss are the only ones that give good advice.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:46 AM
Can we really have the best for everyone?

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:46 AM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:42 AM)
Straight up tell him off. Start using 092 level Sarcasm. Those who call you gay, just say something like--"TASTE THE RAINBOW BICHES"

That would actually be awesome. Then make some sexual gesture. But I doubt ND4 knows any of those and I'm not going to describe them.



Also, when you say "TASTE THE RAINBOW, BICHES!!", make sure you say it with a lisp.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:46 AM
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 01:35 AM)
What does that have to do with my problem?!? The guy really is gay!!! Now I got pricks at my school calling me a gay lover.

You need to calm down. I was only trying to help. dry.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:46 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:47 AM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
Can we really have the best for everyone?

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 01:47 AM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:42 AM)
Straight up tell him off. Start using 092 level Sarcasm. Those who call you gay, just say something like--"TASTE THE RAINBOW BICHES"

Don't mind if I mooch that one, hm? biggrin.gif

Posted by: nicker Apr 18 2009, 01:47 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:46 AM)
You need to calm down. I was only trying to help. dry.gif

Sorry. I am calmed down now. sleep.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:48 AM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 01:47 AM)
Don't mind if I mooch that one, hm? biggrin.gif

Use at your leisure

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 01:48 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 AM)
Doesn't mean you have to end it.

huh.gif You suggest I not defend myself? Great advice. dry.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:50 AM
nevermind this post

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:52 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:48 AM)
huh.gif You suggest I not defend myself? Great advice. dry.gif

Fights can be ended without violence. But that's more difficult. While Violence should only ONLY be self-defense, I believe you were correct in engaging in instinctual acts of self-preservation.

That is, if he threw the first punch. And If you weren't goading him.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:55 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:46 AM)
Don't call us assholes for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

No, you eedeeot!

You've missed the point, and in doing so you present yourself as anti-growth. When things stop growing, they die!

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:59 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:01 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

If you want to get into the Amendments, look at the second one

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:03 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

He's proposed a plan to get us out of the economic crisis. He has proposed a plan to create more jobs. He's also been in office a total of about 2 or 3 months. He hasn't had much time to do anything due to the fact that he is restricted by Congress.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:05 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:03 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

He's proposed a plan to get us out of the economic crisis. He has proposed a plan to create more jobs. He's also been in office a total of about 2 or 3 months. He hasn't had much time to do anything due to the fact that he is restricted by Congress.

He's proposed a plan wacko.gif I propose a plan to make the world a better place... oops, it was just a plan

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:06 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:01 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

If you want to get into the Amendments, look at the second one

What about it?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 02:06 AM
Barack n'est pas the Messiah.

Humanity as a whole is the Messiah. We, not he, shall pull the world from the pit we are in. Or we won't.

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:07 AM
mellow.gif

Surfer standing up for someone...

Never thought I'd see the day. tongue.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 02:07 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:05 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:03 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

He's proposed a plan to get us out of the economic crisis. He has proposed a plan to create more jobs. He's also been in office a total of about 2 or 3 months. He hasn't had much time to do anything due to the fact that he is restricted by Congress.

He's proposed a plan wacko.gif I propose a plan to make the world a better place... oops, it was just a plan

REally, what''s your plan? Is it plausible, can you execute it, will it work, does it involve collaborating with other countries?

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 02:09 AM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 17 2009, 08:06 PM)
Barack n'est pas the Messiah.

Humanity as a whole is the Messiah. We, not he, shall pull the world from the pit we are in. Or we won't.

My money's on the latter.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:29 AM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:09 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 17 2009, 08:06 PM)
Barack n'est pas the Messiah.

Humanity as a whole is the Messiah. We, not he, shall pull the world from the pit we are in. Or we won't.

My money's on the latter.

I have faith in humanity.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 02:31 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 17 2009, 08:29 PM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:09 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 17 2009, 08:06 PM)
Barack n'est pas the Messiah.

Humanity as a whole is the Messiah. We, not he, shall pull the world from the pit we are in. Or we won't.

My money's on the latter.

I have faith in humanity.

As of now, I don't. Depends on what happens later down the road.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 02:35 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:29 AM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:09 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 17 2009, 08:06 PM)
Barack n'est pas the Messiah.

Humanity as a whole is the Messiah. We, not he, shall pull the world from the pit we are in. Or we won't.

My money's on the latter.

I have faith in humanity.

Ditto

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:36 AM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:31 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 17 2009, 08:29 PM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:09 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 17 2009, 08:06 PM)
Barack n'est pas the Messiah.

Humanity as a whole is the Messiah. We, not he, shall pull the world from the pit we are in. Or we won't.

My money's on the latter.

I have faith in humanity.

As of now, I don't. Depends on what happens later down the road.

Agreed

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 03:49 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:59 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

It's been a few months.

Also, here's a little comparison. Bush borrowed, then spent.

Obama taxes, then spends.

One got our economy in the toilet. The other will hopefully get us out. So what if rich people pay a bit more.....

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 04:12 AM
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 01:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

No thanks? I will remember that ND4... dry.gif

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 04:36 AM
Wow...Just wow. Where to start where to start.

First off ND4 dont let it get to you. Kids your age just like being idiots, dont feed their obsessions. If your not interested your not interested simple as that. If he doesnt back off thats his problem, and at the point you can probably assume that he's just there to be a dick instead of expressing his sexual orientation. So I wouldnt think to much about it.


Moving on now to the liberal/conservative debate. I think that both conservatives and liberals suck. On one hand you have water flowing senselessy, and crushing everything on its path. On the other hand you have a rock rotting and decaying; making no attempt to better society. So in my opinion they both have their high point and their low points. To me a goverment should be like water when blessed with times of great triumph and like a rock when pressed with trouble. Sadly even that theory doesnt always work. Perhaps what I look for in a goverment is a sense of morality that I feel would most benefit society. Yes, thats it. Not whether you're a liberal or a conservative, but how willing you are to serve your people.

Moving right along now to the basis of America's founding. In the declaration of indepence there is a line that says, "That whenever any form of goverment becomes destructive of these ends (refering to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness) it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it..." to me this statement defines America's reasoning for declaring their indepence. Sure you can look at it any way you want to but this seems to be the foundadtion of the principles of America's founding.


Keep in mind this is just my opinion. A lot of these points have already been made, but I wanna post too.


Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 10:18 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:06 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:01 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

If you want to get into the Amendments, look at the second one

What about it?

Liberals want to take away our guns... I have Constitutional rights to bear arms.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 03:49 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:59 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

It's been a few months.

Also, here's a little comparison. Bush borrowed, then spent.

Obama taxes, then spends.

One got our economy in the toilet. The other will hopefully get us out. So what if rich people pay a bit more.....

A fair tax for everyone, would be great. Where everyone paid the same amount (percentage wise), so just because I make more than you doesn't mean I'll have %20 of what I make taken away. Or, just because your poor, I don't want to give you my money. I mean, if someone CAN'T work, I'll help, but most of the people on Welfare, Food Stamps, etc. are able-bodied people.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 10:27 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 10:24 AM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 03:49 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:59 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:46 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

Because conservatives are assholes and liberals want the best for everyone.


And me and Hammy are liberals.

Don't call us @$$h0l3$ for trying to uphold the fundamentals that the people who founded this country set out.

But wait, no passion

I was serious about that one. Conservatives are assholes. Don't tell me you are trying to uphold the fundamentals this country was built on. It was built on freedom for everyone. Conservatives want to take away freedoms. Don't give me that crap. You say you uphold fundamentals, yet tell me what I can't call someone. Yeah, I can see the fundamental you are holding up. Or tearing down. It's called the First Amendment. Nice job, I hope you can uphold a lot more fundamentals the same way. This country was built on the separation of Church and State, yet the Christians try to unite the country against everything that they see as "heathen." This country was built on immigrants, yet conservatives want to keep the modern day immigrants out. Conservatives want nothing more than power for themselves. They are ignorant, intolerant, and inconsiderate.

I'm more a conservative independent. I believe in freedom... but not taxing people to death. Sure Bush got us here, but what has the Messiah done yet?

It's been a few months.

Also, here's a little comparison. Bush borrowed, then spent.

Obama taxes, then spends.

One got our economy in the toilet. The other will hopefully get us out. So what if rich people pay a bit more.....


A fair tax for everyone, would be great. Where everyone paid the same amount (percentage wise), so just because I make more than you doesn't mean I'll have %20 of what I make taken away. Or, just because your poor, I don't want to give you my money. I mean, if someone CAN'T work, I'll help, but most of the people on Welfare, Food Stamps, etc. are able-bodied people. And... most of what Bush did, I didn't agree with.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 10:27 AM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 04:12 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 01:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

No thanks? I will remember that ND4... dry.gif

Nice pic, Grunt

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 10:18 AM)
Liberals want to take away our guns... I have Constitutional rights to bear arms.

You seriously think owning a gun is an important issue in your choice of government?

Hahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 12:38 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 11:37 AM)
You seriously think owning a gun is an important issue in your choice of government?

Hahahahahahaha!

It's important to our security. Our neighbor would be dead too, had he not had a gun.
Tell me something, what's to make a criminal give up his guns? If a law is passed saying that everyone has to give up his guns, why would a criminal give his up?
Now, if he's going to walk into a bank and hold it up, empty it, and then pump everybody within full of lead, and there's only two guys with a gun, what's to stop him? Now, if everybody inside has a gun, oh-ho-ho, he's going to think twice.

Yes I do.

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:38 PM)
It's important to our security. Our neighbor would be dead too, had he not had a gun.
Tell me something, what's to make a criminal give up his guns? If a law is passed saying that everyone has to give up his guns, why would a criminal give his up?
Now, if he's going to walk into a bank and hold it up, empty it, and then pump everybody within full of lead, and there's only two guys with a gun, what's to stop him? Now, if everybody inside has a gun, oh-ho-ho, he's going to think twice.

Yes I do.

This is what police are for. Guns are illegal over here. No one's complained or tried to bring it up in government.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:41 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:38 PM)
It's important to our security. Our neighbor would be dead too, had he not had a gun.
Tell me something, what's to make a criminal give up his guns? If a law is passed saying that everyone has to give up his guns, why would a criminal give his up?
Now, if he's going to walk into a bank and hold it up, empty it, and then pump everybody within full of lead, and there's only two guys with a gun, what's to stop him? Now, if everybody inside has a gun, oh-ho-ho, he's going to think twice.

Yes I do.

This is what police are for. Guns are illegal over here. No one's complained or tried to bring it up in government.

But if a guy walks in with a gun, how long, do tell me, will it take for the police to arrive? For some people, if they're close, 5 minutes. For others, such as my neighbor, it took them 45 minutes to get there when called and said there was a guy with a gun there. Don't give me that police crap. If you would like to protect the people with law-inforcement, we would need to hire more, so they don't come to our houses and find dead corpses.

BTW, where are you?

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 12:51 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:44 PM)
But if a guy walks in with a gun, how long, do tell me, will it take for the police to arrive? For some people, if they're close, 5 minutes. For others, such as my neighbor, it took them 45 minutes to get there when called and said there was a guy with a gun there. Don't give me that police crap. If you would like to protect the people with law-inforcement, we would need to hire more, so they don't come to our houses and find dead corpses.

BTW, where are you?

I'm English.

And their are certainly better ways of protecting yourself than a gun. Such as locks and alarms. And not making enemies of people.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:44 PM)
But if a guy walks in with a gun, how long, do tell me, will it take for the police to arrive? For some people, if they're close, 5 minutes. For others, such as my neighbor, it took them 45 minutes to get there when called and said there was a guy with a gun there. Don't give me that police crap. If you would like to protect the people with law-inforcement, we would need to hire more, so they don't come to our houses and find dead corpses.

BTW, where are you?

I'm English.

And their are certainly better ways of protecting yourself than a gun. Such as locks and alarms. And not making enemies of people.

You don't make enemies of people by having guns. What will an alarm do?
*Ring!* "Oh crap, an alarm! Someone's gonna' wake up and I have a gun and they're completely unarmed and the police are 15 miles away!"
Dude, I've had to break into my own house, locks are too easily broken. It took me about 10 seconds. Or there's the more subtle way, if your prefer, lockpicking. Then you could break through the window.

Tell me, what will you do when he gets in there?

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 01:03 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:54 PM)
You don't make enemies of people by having guns. What will an alarm do?
*Ring!*  "Oh crap, an alarm! Someone's gonna' wake up and I have a gun and they're completely unarmed and the police are 15 miles away!"
Dude, I've had to break into my own house, locks are too easily broken. It took me about 10 seconds. Or there's the more subtle way, if your prefer, lockpicking. Then you could break through the window.

Tell me, what will you do when he gets in there?

Only idiots confront burglers anyway, it's not worth the trouble. If you're insured, it will be paid back and the police can then do their job.

We don't have guns, and we live pretty safely.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:54 PM)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:44 PM)
But if a guy walks in with a gun, how long, do tell me, will it take for the police to arrive? For some people, if they're close, 5 minutes. For others, such as my neighbor, it took them 45 minutes to get there when called and said there was a guy with a gun there. Don't give me that police crap. If you would like to protect the people with law-inforcement, we would need to hire more, so they don't come to our houses and find dead corpses.

BTW, where are you?

I'm English.

And their are certainly better ways of protecting yourself than a gun. Such as locks and alarms. And not making enemies of people.

You don't make enemies of people by having guns. What will an alarm do?
*Ring!* "Oh crap, an alarm! Someone's gonna' wake up and I have a gun and they're completely unarmed and the police are 15 miles away!"
Dude, I've had to break into my own house, locks are too easily broken. It took me about 10 seconds. Or there's the more subtle way, if your prefer, lockpicking. Then you could break through the window.

Tell me, what will you do when he gets in there?

GET BETTER LOCKS

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 01:03 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:54 PM)
You don't make enemies of people by having guns. What will an alarm do?
*Ring!* "Oh crap, an alarm! Someone's gonna' wake up and I have a gun and they're completely unarmed and the police are 15 miles away!"
Dude, I've had to break into my own house, locks are too easily broken. It took me about 10 seconds. Or there's the more subtle way, if your prefer, lockpicking. Then you could break through the window.

Tell me, what will you do when he gets in there?

Only idiots confront burglers anyway, it's not worth the trouble. If you're insured, it will be paid back and the police can then do their job.

We don't have guns, and we live pretty safely.

Oh, okay. So you let them take it... I see.
How does this make any sense? They could kill you! Even if you go an hide like the coward you are

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:09 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:04 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:54 PM)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:44 PM)
But if a guy walks in with a gun, how long, do tell me, will it take for the police to arrive? For some people, if they're close, 5 minutes. For others, such as my neighbor, it took them 45 minutes to get there when called and said there was a guy with a gun there. Don't give me that police crap. If you would like to protect the people with law-inforcement, we would need to hire more, so they don't come to our houses and find dead corpses.

BTW, where are you?

I'm English.

And their are certainly better ways of protecting yourself than a gun. Such as locks and alarms. And not making enemies of people.

You don't make enemies of people by having guns. What will an alarm do?
*Ring!* "Oh crap, an alarm! Someone's gonna' wake up and I have a gun and they're completely unarmed and the police are 15 miles away!"
Dude, I've had to break into my own house, locks are too easily broken. It took me about 10 seconds. Or there's the more subtle way, if your prefer, lockpicking. Then you could break through the window.

Tell me, what will you do when he gets in there?

GET BETTER LOCKS

Hehe, sterb002.gif There will always be a way to get to you. The windows, the door... You still can't defend yourself when he gets in here.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:21 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:09 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:04 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:54 PM)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:44 PM)
But if a guy walks in with a gun, how long, do tell me, will it take for the police to arrive? For some people, if they're close, 5 minutes. For others, such as my neighbor, it took them 45 minutes to get there when called and said there was a guy with a gun there. Don't give me that police crap. If you would like to protect the people with law-inforcement, we would need to hire more, so they don't come to our houses and find dead corpses.

BTW, where are you?

I'm English.

And their are certainly better ways of protecting yourself than a gun. Such as locks and alarms. And not making enemies of people.

You don't make enemies of people by having guns. What will an alarm do?
*Ring!* "Oh crap, an alarm! Someone's gonna' wake up and I have a gun and they're completely unarmed and the police are 15 miles away!"
Dude, I've had to break into my own house, locks are too easily broken. It took me about 10 seconds. Or there's the more subtle way, if your prefer, lockpicking. Then you could break through the window.

Tell me, what will you do when he gets in there?

GET BETTER LOCKS

Hehe, sterb002.gif There will always be a way to get to you. The windows, the door... You still can't defend yourself when he gets in here.

Yes you can, there are windows that resist anything short of a gunshot.

You can have mace, combat training, a gov that doesn't condone guns!
See how well England has done.

For ND4, check this out:

If I am in the closet
Then you are below me
Taking the B-A-T
Out of BASEMENT homie

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 01:21 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:06 PM)
Oh, okay. So you let them take it... I see.
How does this make any sense? They could kill you! Even if you go an hide like the coward you are

Yeah, you do... but your stuff is ensured so you'll get refunded.

Simple. They have no reason to kill you if you do not confront them. Burglars don't go around killing. They aren't mafia hit men, they are petty thugs.

It's not cowardly, it's intelligent. If you think it's cowardly you're a fool.

Posted by: treacherous Apr 18 2009, 01:29 PM
Did you ever figure out what werid was? I say kiss em.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 01:21 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:06 PM)
Oh, okay. So you let them take it... I see.
How does this make any sense? They could kill you! Even if you go an hide like the coward you are

Yeah, you do... but your stuff is ensured so you'll get refunded.

Simple. They have no reason to kill you if you do not confront them. Burglars don't go around killing. They aren't mafia hit men, they are petty thugs.

It's not cowardly, it's intelligent. If you think it's cowardly you're a fool.

I think it's foolish to give up your possessions just because your insured and someone will buy you a new one. What if it's a family heirloom? Or it irreplaceable?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:37 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:34 PM)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 01:21 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:06 PM)
Oh, okay. So you let them take it... I see.
How does this make any sense? They could kill you! Even if you go an hide like the coward you are

Yeah, you do... but your stuff is ensured so you'll get refunded.

Simple. They have no reason to kill you if you do not confront them. Burglars don't go around killing. They aren't mafia hit men, they are petty thugs.

It's not cowardly, it's intelligent. If you think it's cowardly you're a fool.

I think it's foolish to give up your possessions just because your insured and someone will buy you a new one. What if it's a family heirloom? Or it irreplaceable?

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:37 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:34 PM)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 01:21 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:06 PM)
Oh, okay. So you let them take it... I see.
How does this make any sense? They could kill you! Even if you go an hide like the coward you are

Yeah, you do... but your stuff is ensured so you'll get refunded.

Simple. They have no reason to kill you if you do not confront them. Burglars don't go around killing. They aren't mafia hit men, they are petty thugs.

It's not cowardly, it's intelligent. If you think it's cowardly you're a fool.

I think it's foolish to give up your possessions just because your insured and someone will buy you a new one. What if it's a family heirloom? Or it irreplaceable?

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

If he presents a risk to my life, I can. I shouldn't have to change the way I live because some j@<k@$$ broke into my house. It wasn't his, he should leave it there.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:55 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

THis is straying far from the point, I have the right to have a gun. Without guns, England would still be a tyrant and we would have lost. You would have no freedom

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

THis is straying far from the point, I have the right to have a gun. Without guns, England would still be a tyrant and we would have lost. You would have no freedom

Soooooooooo

We aren't under imperial rule anymore, give it up.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

THis is straying far from the point, I have the right to have a gun. Without guns, England would still be a tyrant and we would have lost. You would have no freedom

Soooooooooo

We aren't under imperial rule anymore, give it up.

We're all stubborn men. We won't change eachother, or anyone else around us. This argument has come to:
pointless

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:59 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

THis is straying far from the point, I have the right to have a gun. Without guns, England would still be a tyrant and we would have lost. You would have no freedom

Soooooooooo

We aren't under imperial rule anymore, give it up.

Admitted: I've nothing more to say

Damn straight

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:04 PM
...This is why Political Debates are for...political threads... dry.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:05 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:02 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:59 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE

Is it worth your life? Is it worth his?

If you had a gun that sucker wouldn't 'a broke in in the first place!
No it's not, but you wouldn't have to lose your life. IT's yours' and you have the right to defend it, and yourself.

And if you're referring to the robber's, he decided to put his life on the line when he decided to break into my house.

He'd have broken in whether you had a gun or not.
You don't have to lose your life, Bison just explained this
He did risk his life in breaking in to your house, but that doesn't mean you have to kill him.

You might as well go to mountains and fire at the climbers.
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU'RE ALL RISKING YOUR LIFE" *dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka, dakka*

THis is straying far from the point, I have the right to have a gun. Without guns, England would still be a tyrant and we would have lost. You would have no freedom

Soooooooooo

We aren't under imperial rule anymore, give it up.

Admitted: I've nothing more to say

Damn straight

Darn you and you abusive powers. I have much more to say, but I don't want to be locked in endless argument

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:11 PM
I support having guns, but only because I do think it is a necessity in America nowadays. If the crime rate wasn't so high, we wouldn't need guns.



But I could care less about gun control as I do about Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay Rights.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:11 PM)
I support having guns, but only because I do think it is a necessity in America nowadays. If the crime rate wasn't so high, we wouldn't need guns.



But I could care less about gun control as I do about Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay Rights.

Agreed-ish

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:11 PM)
But I could care less about gun control as I do about Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay Rights.

huh.gif
Why?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
huh.gif
Why?

"I, President, am anti-gay" is more important than

"I needs me some protectin' I want a gun"

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:33 PM)
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
huh.gif
Why?

"I, President, am anti-gay" is more important than

"I needs me some protectin' I want a gun"

He didn't ask you

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:38 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:33 PM)
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
huh.gif
Why?

"I, President, am anti-gay" is more important than

"I needs me some protectin' I want a gun"

He didn't ask you

That wasn't necessary. But Day got it pretty much right. On the list of things I care about, gun control is closer to the bottom than gay rights and the whole abortion debate.


Judge, I highly suggest you stop calling people around here "rude" and "inconsiderate". You are quickly becoming the most rude, with that comment and the "Kiss a girl in front of a gay guy hitting on you" BS. We are sarcastic, meaning none of what we say. From what I can grasp about you, you mean it. You are the rude one. Not us.

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:38 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:34 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:33 PM)
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
huh.gif
Why?

"I, President, am anti-gay" is more important than

"I needs me some protectin' I want a gun"

He didn't ask you

He still made a good point...but I would've liked to hear Surfer's reasons...

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:40 PM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:38 PM)
We are sarcastic, meaning none of what we say. From what I can grasp about you, you mean it. You are the rude one. Not us.

So, this is Surfer's reasons...

But, were you being sarcastic when you called all Conservatives a**holes? huh.gif

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:40 PM
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:38 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 02:34 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 02:33 PM)
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:30 PM)
huh.gif
Why?

"I, President, am anti-gay" is more important than

"I needs me some protectin' I want a gun"

He didn't ask you

He still made a good point...but I would've liked to hear Surfer's reasons...

I suppose my last post didn't really answer your question. To answer it, I guess that's just the way I am. I'd rather see everyone be free than to see someone walking around with guns, or no guns. Guns are not necessary. Freedoms are. Everyone should have the freedom to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Having rights and the ability to choose what you do with your life pertains to those three freedoms. Having a gun does not. If anything, it detracts from those freedoms.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:41 PM
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:40 PM)
So, this is Surfer's reasons...

But, were you being sarcastic when you called all Conservatives a**holes? huh.gif

Touche.

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:41 PM)
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:40 PM)
So, this is Surfer's reasons...

But, were you being sarcastic when you called all Conservatives a**holes? huh.gif

Touche.

I'm conservative, I'll tell you right now. And despite your many, many sarcastic comments, My respect for you hasn't diminished.

I feel you are nessecary, Surfer, to keep the balance of...Umm...Well, whatever it is, you balance it out.

And...I was busy writing my comment before you posted, so I didn't know that you did. Sorry...

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:40 PM)

I suppose my last post didn't really answer your question. To answer it, I guess that's just the way I am. I'd rather see everyone be free than to see someone walking around with guns, or no guns. Guns are not necessary. Freedoms are. Everyone should have the freedom to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Having rights and the ability to choose what you do with your life pertains to those three freedoms. Having a gun does not. If anything, it detracts from those freedoms.

Ahh...I see.

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 02:45 PM
I agree with Judge Death here for more than just his reasoning about guns. It's our constitutional right to bear arms. It's original intent was to keep the government from attempting to harrass its people. Now, it's for the protection of the common man.

There are too many idiots out there with easy access to illegal guns. Idiots that DO break into houses and kill people for no other reason than just to kill. Look at our schools and colleges. If a Virginia Tech professor had a concieled weapon, do you think so many inocent lives would have been lost? I'm for teachers and professors having concieled weapons because of all of the school shootings these days.

I live in Arizona, the only state left in the country where people can just walk into a grocery store with a gun strapped to their side. I worked at Safeway about ten years ago and I would see people do it all the time. Do you think anyone is going to try to rob that store with all of the people allowed to have guns? No. The crime rate is extremely low in this area of the country and it is in large part due to the right to bear arms.

I'm a gun owner myself and am proud of it. I keep it secure and safe. It's my right and I use that right.

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:49 PM
...Well said, Grano. But, for the most part, I think Surfer agrees with the right to bear arms... unsure.gif

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 02:50 PM
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 02:49 PM)
...Well said, Grano. But, for the most part, I think Surfer agrees with the right to bear arms... unsure.gif

I wasn't arguing with anyone. I was just stating my opinion is all. wink.gif

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 02:52 PM
QUOTE (Granobulax @ Apr 18 2009, 02:50 PM)
I wasn't arguing with anyone. I was just stating my opinion is all. wink.gif

mellow.gif Oh...

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 02:54 PM
Thank you, mighty Granobulax

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Apr 18 2009, 02:58 PM
The only reason why I agree with the right to bear arms is what Grano said. Two years ago, I heard of a lady who took her parents out to dinner, only to see them gunned down. She was forced to leave her gun (or she never had one, but she sure wanted one) at home. I thought that was kind of stupid.


And I don't hate ALL conservatives, but for the most part, I hate people who hate gays for no good reason (and there is never a good reason to hate someone) and the people that don't realize that Pro-Choice is different from Pro-Killing Babies.

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 03:02 PM
As far as the conservative/liberal debate, I'm in the middle on this one. While I am fiscally conservative, I am also socially liberal.

*To those that don't understand what that means, I like smaller government giving peope more chance to empower themselves instead of having the government do it for them while supporting gay rights and such.*

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 03:04 PM
I wasn't actually arguing the right to bear arms, I was arguing that it is not the kind of issue that should decide your choice of government. You can live without a gun, it's really not that important.

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (treacherous @ Apr 18 2009, 01:29 PM)
Did you ever figure out what werid was?

I was sooo going to say that over on the EF but once again, you beat me to it dry.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 03:34 PM
SS, how isn't it different? It's a doctor killing your baby! Just because it hasn't come out of the womb yet, doesn't make it less a person that your or me

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 03:35 PM
I agree with the last thing Grano said. But if he was using this: not abortion

Posted by: videogameman Apr 18 2009, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:34 PM)
SS, how isn't it different? It's a doctor killing your baby! Just because it hasn't come out of the womb yet, doesn't make it less a person that your or me

I think he meant he DOESN'T approve of abortion. But If I'm intepreting the scentence wrong, I'm sorry Surfer.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 03:38 PM
Why can't I quote people any more?

Posted by: videogameman Apr 18 2009, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:38 PM)
Why can't I quote people any more?

NO QUOTE FOR YOU! teu42.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 03:39 PM
Seriously, why?

Posted by: videogameman Apr 18 2009, 03:39 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:39 PM)
Seriously, why?

I don't know. dry.gif

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 03:45 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 03:35 PM)
I agree with the last thing Grano said. But if he was using this: not abortion

If you're wondering my stance on abortion, I believe it's acceptable in special circomstanses such as rape. Other than that, it's morally wrong. Do I have the right to take away that person's choice and right to though? No. It's law that it is a person's right to choose. Just because I don't believe in it doesn't mean others believe in the same things I do.

Thus is the melting pot of cultures, politics, and morals in this country.

A quote by Voltaire fits here rather nicely, "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." This applies to rights as well.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 03:46 PM
Owning a gun as an american is my constitutional right. It could mean life or death for myself, my family, or my friends. You could say that it's not neccesary, or just to let the police handle it. Unfortunately the police cant be with you 24/7, and it is your responsiblity to protect your-self in times of danger. Locks, and alarms won't keep out a determined burgular. If you're home when the burgular breaks in there is a good chance he's going to try to hurt you. Personally from that point I would do whatever it takes to keep him for causing harm to myself or to my family, even if it means pulling a gun on him.

However, Judge Death you are wrong to assume that the right to bare amrs is the main principle of America's founding. The main principle of America's founding is quoted by Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg Address," - and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." In other words the America's goverment is based on the idea that the goverment should be created to serve the people not for the people to serve the goverment.

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 03:48 PM
Do you see what Solomon did there? He said what I did but made it better.

Gotta love him. happy.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 03:50 PM
Admitted, guns are a necessity in some parts of America today. It wouldn't be that way if gun control was as strongly enforced as it is in England.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 03:52 PM
QUOTE (Granobulax @ Apr 18 2009, 03:48 PM)
Do you see what Solomon did there? He said what I did but made it better.

Gotta love him. happy.gif

Yeah man, I love bear arms!

user posted image

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 03:52 PM)
QUOTE (Granobulax @ Apr 18 2009, 03:48 PM)
Do you see what Solomon did there? He said what I did but made it better.

Gotta love him. happy.gif

Yeah man, I love bear arms!

user posted image

I thought it was the right to bare arms

user posted image

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 03:55 PM
No. I have a bear in my house who attacks people if I feel threatened...duh. tongue.gif

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 03:57 PM
Pseudonym posting pics of half naked men... gaydar alert. unsure.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 03:55 PM)
No. I have a bear in my house who attacks people if I feel threatened...duh. tongue.gif

Grano?

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (videogameman @ Apr 18 2009, 03:37 PM)
I think he meant he DOESN'T approve of abortion. But If I'm intepreting the scentence wrong, I'm sorry Surfer.

dry.gif
What he means is that he supports a woman's right to choose. Pro-Choice means you could care less if a woman has an abortion. Pro-Abortion/Killing babies is where you want all women to have an abortion.

Surfer is Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. He supports their right to choose, yet he may find abortion morally wrong on the inside.

You see?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (Granobulax @ Apr 18 2009, 03:57 PM)
Pseudonym posting pics of half naked men... gaydar alert. unsure.gif

And the thread travels full-circle. Wow, that's weird.

Homosexuality
Gay rights
Gov'ment
Gun control
Bear arms
Bare arms
Homosexuality!

Posted by: Granobulax Apr 18 2009, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:57 PM)
dry.gif
What he means is that he supports a woman's right to choose. Pro-Choice means you could care less if a woman has an abortion. Pro-Abortion/Killing babies is where you want all women to have an abortion.

Surfer is Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. He supports their right to choose, yet he may find abortion morally wrong on the inside.

You see?

No. Please explain it in further detail. tongue.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 03:59 PM
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Apr 18 2009, 03:57 PM)
dry.gif
What he means is that he supports a woman's right to choose. Pro-Choice means you could care less if a woman has an abortion. Pro-Abortion/Killing babies is where you want all women to have an abortion.

Surfer is Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. He supports their right to choose, yet he may find abortion morally wrong on the inside.

You see?

So Pro-Abortion= Anti future?

That's wrong.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 03:58 PM)
And the thread travels full-circle. Wow, that's weird.

Homosexuality
Gay rights
Gov'ment
Gun control
Bear arms
Bare arms
Homosexuality!

It's the circle of haven life.

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 03:59 PM)
So Pro-Abortion= Anti future?

That's wrong.

Pro-Abortion might mean that...I'm not an expert, soo....

Posted by: MarvelFan15 Apr 18 2009, 04:03 PM
QUOTE (Granobulax @ Apr 18 2009, 03:58 PM)
No. Please explain it in further detail. tongue.gif

dry.gif sterb002.gif

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 04:56 PM
This thing has really gotten past the whole gun thing, but I need to add something.

Guns don't equal safety.

Besides, if it's easy for everyone to get a weapon, then what's stopping criminals from buying anything they want.

Look at the border problem. If there was some type of gun control/limits, then many people would not have died. Many people would not be addicted to drugs. Many futures, would still be bright.

I think that guns should be allowed, but have limits/rules.

Posted by: The Last Technomancer Apr 18 2009, 05:00 PM
Being gay is good thing but the majority of people aren't truly gay. If the majority of people were gay the psyciatrist and people who make anti-depressants wouldn't be because they'd be bankrupt.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 05:09 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 04:56 PM)
This thing has really gotten past the whole gun thing, but I need to add something.

Guns don't equal safety.

Besides, if it's easy for everyone to get a weapon, then what's stopping criminals from buying anything they want. 

Look at the border problem. If there was some type of gun control/limits, then many people would not have died. Many people would not be addicted to drugs. Many futures, would still be bright.

I think that guns should be allowed, but have limits/rules.

Marvel Man: Guns cause drug addiction.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM
I kind of agree with you, Erik.
If you have
1: A criminal record
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)

Then you shouldn't be allowed. In most any other circumstance, yeah.

But, if a guy wants to hold up a grocery store and plans to shoot everyone, what would be to stop him? Now, if everyone in that store had a gun, and he knew it, he'd think twice. Also, if the government wants to take them all away, a criminal's a criminal, why would he give them up? Then you have nothing and he can unload on you and your family

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:26 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


...

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 11:10 AM)
I kind of agree with you, Erik.
If you have
1: A criminal record
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)

Then you shouldn't be allowed. In most any other circumstance, yeah.

But, if a guy wants to hold up a grocery store and plans to shoot everyone, what would be to stop him? Now, if everyone in that store had a gun, and he knew it, he'd think twice. Also, if the government wants to take them all away, a criminal's a criminal, why would he give them up? Then you have nothing and he can unload on you and your family

Are you saying that if somebody has a criminal record, they shouldn't have the right to protect themselves with a gun if needed?

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (The Last Technomancer @ Apr 18 2009, 05:00 PM)
Being gay is good thing but the majority of people aren't truly gay. If the majority of people were gay the psyciatrist and people who make anti-depressants wouldn't be because they'd be bankrupt.

...

What?

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:31 PM
What kind of criminal record? A record for fraud? What about innocent people with records?

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 05:32 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 05:31 PM)
...

What?

I was hoping he was joking.

Posted by: treacherous Apr 18 2009, 05:33 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


...

Are you seeing the same problem that I am?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM
I was reffering to things such as Murder, robbery etc. etc.

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 05:32 PM)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 05:31 PM)
...

What?

I was hoping he was joking.

No, I just don't know what the hell he's trying to say.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:36 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


...

Are you seeing the same problem that I am?

I think. Is your point that mental retardation isn't a severe mental problem?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:37 PM
I was saying that it was, Solomon.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:38 PM
It's like saying that special needs people belong in the aslyum, and locked in a cage, because they're a little bit slower than most.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:37 PM)
I was saying that it was, Solomon.

Yes I can see that....

So your saying that people with mental retardation don't deserve the same rights as the rest of us?

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 11:35 AM)
I was reffering to things such as Murder, robbery etc. etc.

Okay, say somebody robs a bank, and spends three years in the slammer. Two years after he is released, a serial killer breaks into his house(Go along with it). The serial killer ends up killing the former bank robber, and a slight chance of him surviving was taken away, because he wasn't allowed to have a gun, because of his criminal record.

See the problem?

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:41 PM
Perhaps you should have specified a mental problem, if someone is diagnosed with paranoia then they probably shouldn't have a gun, they'll think an innocent person is after them and might shoot them. (Is that possibly the kind of thing you meant?) I'd mention mental illnesses but I don't know enough about any and besides half of the ones I know a little about wouldn't lead anyone to buy a gun because it's just not something they tend to do.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:42 PM
I think someone with mental retardation deserve the care of someone who has one.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
I kind of agree with you, Marvel Man.
If you have
1: A criminal record
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)

Then you shouldn't be allowed. In most any other circumstance, yeah.

But, if a guy wants to hold up a grocery store and plans to shoot everyone, what would be to stop him? Now, if everyone in that store had a gun, and he knew it, he'd think twice. Also, if the government wants to take them all away, a criminal's a criminal, why would he give them up? Then you have nothing and he can unload on you and your family

But, what if the criminal didn't know, Jimmy.

He still runs in, but the whole thing turns into a shootout when the innocent "bystander" pulls out an assault rifle.

In every robbery, someone would end up dead.
How is that safer? Besides, what type of bank allows guns?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:43 PM
Mayhaps, L, Mayhaps

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:44 PM
When it comes to banks surely it makes more sense to have guards who are trained to use guns rather than civilians trying to be heroes.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 05:42 PM)
How is that safer?

Better him than me.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 05:41 PM)
Okay, say somebody robs a bank, and spends three years in the slammer. Two years after he is released, a serial killer breaks into his house(Go along with it). The serial killer ends up killing the former bank robber, and a slight chance of him surviving was taken away, because he wasn't allowed to have a gun, because of his criminal record.

See the problem?

But what if, the Bank Robber doesn't become a better person?

He just goes out, buys another gun, and does something stupid. Again.
He goes back, maybe six years, then goes out and does it again.

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 05:44 PM)
When it comes to banks surely it makes more sense to have guards who are trained to use guns rather than civilians trying to be heroes.

This. Just this.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 05:44 PM)
When it comes to banks surely it makes more sense to have guards who are trained to use guns rather than civilians trying to be heroes.

Agreed.

Unless everyone with a gun is trained, and taught, then it really doesn't help. It just makes things worse.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM
Imagine these two scenarios. Or maybe more.

#1: A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, no one does
He walks into the bank, and shoots everyone, takes the money, the cops come, and eventually find him

#2 A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, everyone does
He walks into the bank, and pulls out the gun. A bystander pulls out one too and shoots him. Instead, one person ends up dead, and he intended to kill everyone

#3 A criminal does know everyone has a gun, everyone does
He won't even bother unless he's insane

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 11:45 AM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 05:41 PM)
Okay, say somebody robs a bank, and spends three years in the slammer. Two years after he is released, a serial killer breaks into his house(Go along with it). The serial killer ends up killing the former bank robber, and a slight chance of him surviving was taken away, because he wasn't allowed to have a gun, because of his criminal record.

See the problem?

But what if, the Bank Robber doesn't become a better person?

He just goes out, buys another gun, and does something stupid. Again.
He goes back, maybe six years, then goes out and does it again.

Yes. But I believe that everybody has he right to defend their life, regardless of what they've previously done.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:45 PM)
Better him than me.

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No comment.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:49 PM
Guards are nice, but you can pick them out easy. I think both are necesary.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 05:50 PM
Erik, he wants to kill everyone, you want to save everyone.
In what way would it not be better him that you?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:50 PM)
Erik, he wants to kill everyone, you want to save everyone.
In what way would it not be better him that you?

Who are you talking to?

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:49 PM)
Guards are nice, but you can pick them out easy. I think both are necesary.

Yeah, the robber knows who the guards are... he still can't do anything about it, he tries to take one out and the others mow him down.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:53 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the banks in my area don't have guards.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 11:53 AM)
Maybe it's just me, but the banks in my area don't have guards.

Then there's nothing to stop a robber. Hence, JD's point of civilians having a gun.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


...

Are you seeing the same problem that I am?

I think. Is your point that mental retardation isn't a severe mental problem?

Mine was use of the word retardedness proves your retardation.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 05:57 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


...

Are you seeing the same problem that I am?

I think. Is your point that mental retardation isn't a severe mental problem?

Mine was use of the word retardedness proves your retardation.

That too. happy.gif

Posted by: treacherous Apr 18 2009, 05:58 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 05:57 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:10 PM)
2: A severe mental problem (such as retardedness)


...

Are you seeing the same problem that I am?

I think. Is your point that mental retardation isn't a severe mental problem?

Mine was use of the word retardedness proves your retardation.

Bravo!! Thank you PEHsys=hcyynem.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM)
Imagine these two scenarios. Or maybe more.

#1: A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, no one does
He walks into the bank, and shoots everyone, takes the money, the cops come, and eventually find him

#2 A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, everyone does
He walks into the bank, and pulls out the gun. A bystander pulls out one too and shoots him. Instead, one person ends up dead, and he intended to kill everyone

#3 A criminal does know everyone has a gun, everyone does
He won't even bother unless he's insane

you forgot:

Criminal doesn't have a gun cuz they are BANNED. He pulls a knife someone judo flips him
NO ONE DIES.

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM
There is a problem with civilians having guns, they may shoot an innocent person. Especially after a big event (a bombing for example though it can also happen after a robbery) people become tense and see suspicious activity everywhere, if a civilian with a gun sees something odd they might shoot straight away when it turns out the guy was only reaching for a phone.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 11:59 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM)
Imagine these two scenarios. Or maybe more.

#1: A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, no one does
He walks into the bank, and shoots everyone, takes the money, the cops come, and eventually find him

#2 A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, everyone does
He walks into the bank, and pulls out the gun. A bystander pulls out one too and shoots him. Instead, one person ends up dead, and he intended to kill everyone

#3 A criminal does know everyone has a gun, everyone does
He won't even bother unless he's insane

you forgot:

Criminal doesn't have a gun cuz they are BANNED. He pulls a knife someone judo flips him
NO ONE DIES.

Unless the robber stabs somebody with the knife.

My final conclusion, some people just suck.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM)
There is a problem with civilians having guns, they may shoot an innocent person. Especially after a big event (a bombing for example though it can also happen after a robbery) people become tense and see suspicious activity everywhere, if a civilian with a gun sees something odd they might shoot straight away when it turns out the guy was only reaching for a phone.

DIABLO DIABLO!

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:01 PM
Some of you act as if you get rid of guns then all crime in the world will stop.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 11:59 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM)
Imagine these two scenarios. Or maybe more.

#1: A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, no one does
He walks into the bank, and shoots everyone, takes the money, the cops come, and eventually find him

#2 A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, everyone does
He walks into the bank, and pulls out the gun. A bystander pulls out one too and shoots him. Instead, one person ends up dead, and he intended to kill everyone

#3 A criminal does know everyone has a gun, everyone does
He won't even bother unless he's insane

you forgot:

Criminal doesn't have a gun cuz they are BANNED. He pulls a knife someone judo flips him
NO ONE DIES.

Unless the robber stabs somebody with the knife.

My final conclusion, some people just suck.

And even then, the chances of death are much lower than a gunshot.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 05:47 PM)
Imagine these two scenarios. Or maybe more.

#1: A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, no one does
He walks into the bank, and shoots everyone, takes the money, the cops come, and eventually find him

#2 A criminal doesn't know anyone has a gun, everyone does
He walks into the bank, and pulls out the gun. A bystander pulls out one too and shoots him. Instead, one person ends up dead, and he intended to kill everyone

#3 A criminal does know everyone has a gun, everyone does
He won't even bother unless he's insane

#1. Why would he kill them all?

A sane Bank Robber wants the money. If he robs the bank, and gets caught, he gets several years in prison. He might even have parole.

If he kills anyone, and is caught, he gets Life/Death.

Reality: The Customers get down, thief gets money, police later catch him.
Casualties: 0.

#2. Alright, he runs in, another person pulls out a weapon, he shoots the robber.

Either, one, it's fatal, and the robber dies. The person has just killed someone.

Or, two, due to lack of training/experience (How many people know how to kill someone?) it's not fatal. The Robber shoots back, kills the guy. Everyone else, pulls out their weapons. Robber says, "Sh**!", and starts fireing at random.

Eventually, someone kills him.

Casualties: Too many.

#3. Impossible. There are risks in even attempting to rob a bank. Just because people are armed, it won't stop all robberies.

Heck, police officers are armed and trained, yet thieves take them on all the time.
Reality: Robber still attempts the robbery, but takes a hostage, or throws a bomb.

Casualties: Too many.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:00 PM)
There is a problem with civilians having guns, they may shoot an innocent person. Especially after a big event (a bombing for example though it can also happen after a robbery) people become tense and see suspicious activity everywhere, if a civilian with a gun sees something odd they might shoot straight away when it turns out the guy was only reaching for a phone.

There's also a problem with civilians not having guns all together.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:01 PM)
Some of you act as if you get rid of guns then all crime in the world will stop.

It won't, but killin' folks'll be much harder.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:02 PM
Pseudonym, he's a CRIMINAL, he wants to kill you, if the government said:
"Give us your guns!"
Why would he give you his guns?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:03 PM
Since when is a bank robber sane?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:03 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:02 PM)
It won't, but killin' folks'll be much harder.

It's not hard to kill somebody. I can do it with my bare hands. Should I chop off my hands and give them to the goverment?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:04 PM
The "retardedness" thing was a joke, man

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:05 PM
He doesn't want any witnesses

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:05 PM
Lol the trouble is no matter what there will be people with guns who shouldn't have them and who will do bad things with them. As long as those people have them others will want them to 'protect' themselves and since the in America that's legal there's nothing that can really be done there.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:06 PM
Who's Erik?

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:06 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 12:03 PM)
It's not hard to kill somebody. I can do it with my bare hands. Should I chop off my hands and give them to the goverment?

No. If everbody got rid of there weapns. Somebody would justmake a weapon, and then we would all be defenseless. Unless we make the same weapon, making everbdy equal. Causing the same problem all over again.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:05 PM)
He doesn't want any witnesses

Heard of a security camera?

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:03 PM)
Since when is a bank robber sane?

Since when is he insane?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:06 PM)
No. If everbody got rid of there weapns. Somebody would justmake a weapon, and then we would all be defenseless. Unless we make the same weapon, making everbdy equal. Causing the same problem all over again.

Exactly why getting rid of guns is pointless. If someone wants to kill someboy they'll find a way to do it.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM)
Since when is he insane?

Usually when you rob a bank your not in the right state of mind.

Unless of course you think that robbing a bank is logical.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM
Someone answer my damm question. Who's Erik?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:02 PM)
Pseudonym, he's a CRIMINAL, he wants to kill you, if the government said:
"Give us your guns!"
Why would he give you his guns?

He wouldn't, and I acknowledge that. But with police cracking down the number of guns on street would lessen considerably until there are none or few.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM)
Heard of a security camera?

Or a mask....

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM
Hahaha, yeah Solomon

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 12:07 PM)
Exactly why getting rid of guns is pointless. If someone wants to kill someboy they'll find a way to do it.

My point exactly.

Don't blame the crime on the weapon, but the one who wields it.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM
Judge death it would help if you quoted the post you were replying to.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:03 PM)
It's not hard to kill somebody. I can do it with my bare hands. Should I chop off my hands and give them to the goverment?

1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM)
My point exactly.

Don't blame the crime on the weapon, but the one who wields it.

Yes. Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:11 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM)
Usually when you rob a bank your not in the right state of mind.

Unless of course you think that robbing a bank is logical.

True.

But there's a differance between wanting to kill, and wanting money.

Posted by: The Ripper Apr 18 2009, 06:11 PM
Well. I'm both pro-gun, and against it. IF one isn't responsible, he/she should not have a gun. Only those who are responsible should have a gun. The insane people who want to kill a few innocents should NOT have a gun at all. Period.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1) Agreed.

2) Agreed.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM
QUOTE
Judge death it would help if you quoted the post you were replying to.


OKay, but this had been made difficult by the fact that there's not Quote button on my screen anymore

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:14 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 12:11 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:07 PM)
Usually when you rob a bank your not in the right state of mind.

Unless of course you think that robbing a bank is logical.

True.

But there's a differance between wanting to kill, and wanting money.

But robbing a bank is an illogical way to get money. Either way, you're one messed up person.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:11 PM)
But there's a differance between wanting to kill, and wanting money.

Chances are that if the person is willing to rob a bank for money they're desperate. Desperation causes poor judgement.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 10:27 AM)
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 04:12 AM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Apr 18 2009, 01:41 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 18 2009, 01:39 AM)
How do you know for a fact that he is gay? Those kids are immature. You should be the guy that can walk around and not care what people call you, because you know who and what you are, and who and what you are not.


Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can only do as much as you let them.

Did you make that up? Yeah your right. Thanks Surfer. Really thanks. No thanks to the rest of you. dry.gif

How is that Surfer and Ham are the only ones with good advice.

No thanks? I will remember that ND4... dry.gif

Nice pic, Grunt

Thank you. cool.gif

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

1) Well, how many people know those moves, and can pull them off?

Now, compare that percentage to how many people can pull a trigger on a gun.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:16 PM
I'm sure, King Solomon. It's gone. Could you help me?

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 12:16 PM)
I'm sure, King Solomon. It's gone. Could you help me?

user posted image

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:18 PM
I'm changing my avatar again

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

1) I meant emotionally

2) I'm scared to ask, but what are you typing with?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:16 PM)

1) Well, how many people know those moves, and can pull them off?

Now, compare that percentage to how many people can pull a trigger on a gun.

Well, I can.


How many people can swing a metal bat? How many people can load, and fire a gun?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:17 PM)
user posted image

win

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:21 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

1) I meant emotionally

2) I'm scared to ask, but what are you typing with?

1.) If I think that someone is going to harm my family. You can be sure that I won't think twice about it.


2.) ...It's probably better if I dont say.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:21 PM
We must all admit, Guns are more likely to kill than other weapons mentioned.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:16 PM)

1) Well, how many people know those moves, and can pull them off?

Now, compare that percentage to how many people can pull a trigger on a gun.

Well, I can.


How many people can swing a metal bat? How many people can load, and fire a gun?

1) Well, you're Solomon. That doesn't count....

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 12:21 PM)
We must all admit, Guns are more likely to kill than other weapons mentioned.

The Human body is the ultimate weapon.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:23 PM
It's just as easy to kill somebody by swining a bat full force at their head. Even 5 year olds can do that. Not everyone knows how to handle a gun.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:23 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)
The Human body is the ultimate weapon.

When trained and stuff. Very little training required for guns.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:23 PM)
It's just as easy to kill somebody by swining a bat full force at their head. Even 5 year olds can do that. Not everyone knows how to handle a gun.

are you implying a five year old with a bat could rob a bank if the bank members are unarmed?

Could kill a bloke?

Way off you are.

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM
Guns kill from long range, you have to get up close to do real damage with a bat or anything like that (yes you can throw it but it isn't the same).
Also a lot of people know how to use guns properly, I do.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

With full force and Malice, yes

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

A five year old?

Swinging a bat hard enough to kill someone?
That makes little sense. Heck, have you seen them play baseball?

Besides, a gun can be fired by accident. How can you kill someone with a bat by accident?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
are you implying a five year old with a bat could rob a bank if the bank members are unarmed?

Could kill a bloke?

Way off you are.

I'm implying that anyone can swing a bat.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:26 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

A five year old?

Swinging a bat hard enough to kill someone?
That makes little sense. Heck, have you seen them play baseball?

Besides, a gun can be fired by accident. How can you kill someone with a bat by accident?

Doesn't take much force to kill somebody when it's in the right spot.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 12:23 PM)
When trained and stuff. Very little training required for guns.

That isn't my point.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

With full force and Malice, yes

I disagree.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:27 PM
It's almost impossible to kill with melee. Emotions get in the way.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:26 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:26 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

A five year old?

Swinging a bat hard enough to kill someone?
That makes little sense. Heck, have you seen them play baseball?

Besides, a gun can be fired by accident. How can you kill someone with a bat by accident?

Doesn't take much force to kill somebody when it's in the right spot.

Once again, how many five year old know where said spot is?

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 12:27 PM)
It's almost impossible to kill with melee. Emotions get in the way.

Tell that to Lizzie Borden.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:29 PM
dry.gif Well, I didn't want to have to ever bring this up, but I played Baseball when I was 7. I was fairly athletic for my age, when I swung the bat, the ball went a good ways off. I threw the back behind me and ran. When I finished my home run, I discovered that my coach's knee had been injured. He had a fracture and bad bruising.
dry.gif

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:27 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:22 PM)

And it's a lot harder to use a baseball bat. Trust me.

Wait...What? Are you saying it's harder to swing a baseball bat than it is to load a gun, aim, and fire it?

With full force and Malice, yes

I disagree.

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:28 PM)
Once again, how many five year old know where said spot is?

Most 5 year olds know that getting hit in the groin hurts. They might not know that it's potentially lethal, but if they could kill a man if they hit him hard enough there.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:29 PM)
dry.gif Well, I didn't want to have to ever bring this up, but I played Baseball when I was 7. I was fairly athletic for my age, when I swung the bat, the ball went a good ways off. I threw the back behind me and ran. When I finished my home run, I discovered that my coach's knee had been injured. He had a fracture and bad bruising.
dry.gif

Did you hit him with the bat?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM
That same guilt would come from shooting her in the chest, Pseudonym

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:29 PM)
dry.gif  Well, I didn't want to have to ever bring this up, but I played Baseball when I was 7. I was fairly athletic for my age, when I swung the bat, the ball went a good ways off. I threw the back behind me and ran. When I finished my home run, I discovered that my coach's knee had been injured. He had a fracture and bad bruising.
dry.gif

Did you hit him with the bat?

When I threw it it hit him

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 12:31 PM)
Most 5 year olds know that getting hit in the groin hurts. They might not know that it's potentially lethal, but if they could kill a man if they hit him hard enough there.

Perfect source of evidence: America's funniest home videos.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:32 PM)
Perfect source of evidence: America's funniest home videos.

Hahahaha, yeah.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:32 PM)
Perfect source of evidence: America's funniest home videos.

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Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

It's generally thought that shooting a gun distances you from the target, you can be stood far away and shoot someone and they'll just fall. If you want to beat someone to death with a bat you have to go over to them and hit them and see everything you do.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:33 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

It's generally thought that shooting a gun distances you from the target, you can be stood far away and shoot someone and they'll just fall. If you want to beat someone to death with a bat you have to go over to them and hit them and see everything you do.

When my incident happened I didn't know until I had completed an entire home run

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

You'd be less likely to fully commit the act. I've wanted to kill someone before. If I had a gun, I would've. I sat on his chest prepared to ground&pound (to many wrestling video games)

I never threw a punch.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

It's generally thought that shooting a gun distances you from the target, you can be stood far away and shoot someone and they'll just fall. If you want to beat someone to death with a bat you have to go over to them and hit them and see everything you do.

Either way, you've just killed somebody.

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
Most 5 year olds know that getting hit in the groin hurts. They might not know that it's potentially lethal, but if they could kill a man if they hit him hard enough there.

True.

We must ban all groin related humor!

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 12:35 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

You'd be less likely to fully commit the act. I've wanted to kill someone before. If I had a gun, I would've. I sat on his chest prepared to ground&pound (to many wrestling video games)

I never threw a punch.

Then why did you use the example of snapping someones neck?

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)

You'd be less likely to fully commit the act. I've wanted to kill someone before. If I had a gun, I would've. I sat on his chest prepared to ground&pound (to many wrestling video games)

I never threw a punch.

...and if you had a gun you would have blasted him, no problem?

Posted by: Marvel Man Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

It's generally thought that shooting a gun distances you from the target, you can be stood far away and shoot someone and they'll just fall. If you want to beat someone to death with a bat you have to go over to them and hit them and see everything you do.

Either way, you've just killed somebody.

Yes but it's somehow still different. You are far less likely to kill someone by hitting them. If you're angry at someone you're likely to do one act of violence, punching them if you have no weapons, if you have a gun that one act would be pulling the trigger which is far more likely to kill them than a single punch.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:36 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)

You'd be less likely to fully commit the act. I've wanted to kill someone before. If I had a gun, I would've. I sat on his chest prepared to ground&pound (to many wrestling video games)

I never threw a punch.

...and if you had a gun you would have blasted him, no problem?

From farther away, before I was standing/sitting over him. Yeah probably.

You've heard: If looks could kill

It's a similar thing, guns can, as easily as a look.

Posted by: Pseudonym Apr 18 2009, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)
True.

We must ban all groin related humor!

"With ABC deleting dynamite gags from cartoons, do you find that your children are using explosives less frequently?"
Mark LoPresti

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:41 PM
Bat easier than gun. No learning required.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

I know lots of people my age who can shoot, I know of several hundred more who can shoot. Also don't call me ma'am!

The thing is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat, given a choice of weapon peope will choose a gun. As long as they can get guns they will get them rather than using a bat, if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

What are you typing with? huh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

I know lots of people my age who can shoot, I know of several hundred more who can shoot. Also don't call me ma'am!

The thing is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat, given a choice of weapon peope will choose a gun. As long as they can get guns they will get them rather than using a bat, if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Or they'll not give up their gun and keep it away from the eyes of the government.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:21 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

1) I meant emotionally

2) I'm scared to ask, but what are you typing with?

1.) If I think that someone is going to harm my family. You can be sure that I won't think twice about it.


2.) ...It's probably better if I dont say.

His feet. tongue.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:09 PM)
1) It's a lot harder to kill someone bare-handed and you know it. The emotions involved are extremely strong.

2) No you shouldn't chop off your hands, that'd hurt alot.

1.) You wanna bet. The right twist of the neck, a strike to the wind pipe, using the edge of your hand to strike someone's temple, a strong strike to someone's solar plexus all of these and more are easy quick, and lethal. My point still stands either way, if someone wants to murder somebody they'll find a way to do it.

2.) Geez, I wish you would have told me that before. sad.gif

What are you typing with? huh.gif laugh.gif

Ew... I just saw. You do not wanna' know man

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM
And people say we can't have serious discussions at Haven.

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Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Yes. So taking away a gun would do little to stop somebody from killing somebody.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM)
And people say we can't have serious discussions at Haven.

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...I'm thirsty. sad.gif

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

I know lots of people my age who can shoot, I know of several hundred more who can shoot. Also don't call me ma'am!

The thing is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat, given a choice of weapon peope will choose a gun. As long as they can get guns they will get them rather than using a bat, if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Or they'll not give up their gun and keep it away from the eyes of the government.

I meant that they can get them, if they already have them then it's different of course, there is basically nothing you can do if they have a gun and really want to keep it.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

I know lots of people my age who can shoot, I know of several hundred more who can shoot. Also don't call me ma'am!

The thing is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat, given a choice of weapon peope will choose a gun. As long as they can get guns they will get them rather than using a bat, if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Or they'll not give up their gun and keep it away from the eyes of the government.

I meant that they can get them, if they already have them then it's different of course, there is basically nothing you can do if they have a gun and really want to keep it.

Exactly. So taking away guns would only mean we can't defend ourselves from the people who kept their's

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM)
Yes. So taking away a gun would do little to stop somebody from killing somebody.

Yes, if they really want to do it then they will. However it will generally make it more difficult which will possibly put people off the idea as it would take to much effort.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)
True.

We must ban all groin related humor!

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Dun dun dun dun!

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

It's generally thought that shooting a gun distances you from the target, you can be stood far away and shoot someone and they'll just fall. If you want to beat someone to death with a bat you have to go over to them and hit them and see everything you do.

Either way, you've just killed somebody.

Yes but it's somehow still different. You are far less likely to kill someone by hitting them. If you're angry at someone you're likely to do one act of violence, punching them if you have no weapons, if you have a gun that one act would be pulling the trigger which is far more likely to kill them than a single punch.

Really? Because I would feel guilty just knowing I killed somebody.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:50 PM)
Yes, if they really want to do it then they will. However it will generally make it more difficult which will possibly put people off the idea as it would take to much effort.

Hooray for lazyness! laugh.gif

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:50 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

I know lots of people my age who can shoot, I know of several hundred more who can shoot. Also don't call me ma'am!

The thing is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat, given a choice of weapon peope will choose a gun. As long as they can get guns they will get them rather than using a bat, if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Or they'll not give up their gun and keep it away from the eyes of the government.

I meant that they can get them, if they already have them then it's different of course, there is basically nothing you can do if they have a gun and really want to keep it.

Exactly. So taking away guns would only mean we can't defend ourselves from the people who kept their's

That would be the point in having a police force, they are supposed to protect people from those who are dangerous. Of course this doesn't work most of the time but that doesn't mean that everyone should be able to get a gun, that just leads to more problems, to people shooting someone because they get angry or shooting someone by accident.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM)
And people say we can't have serious discussions at Haven.

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Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:51 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM)

I'd like you to just think about walking up to a lady on the street and grabbing her from behind and snapping her neck.

Think about the guilt, the reprocussions, etc.

How is this any different than walking down the street, and shooting the lady?

It's generally thought that shooting a gun distances you from the target, you can be stood far away and shoot someone and they'll just fall. If you want to beat someone to death with a bat you have to go over to them and hit them and see everything you do.

Either way, you've just killed somebody.

Yes but it's somehow still different. You are far less likely to kill someone by hitting them. If you're angry at someone you're likely to do one act of violence, punching them if you have no weapons, if you have a gun that one act would be pulling the trigger which is far more likely to kill them than a single punch.

Really? Because I would feel guilty just knowing I killed somebody.

Yes most people would feel guily either way but they're usually the people that won't kill someone. There are those who would kill someone any way they could and would feel no guilt and then there are the people who can do it if they justify themselves and often they find that easier when they use a gun.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:55 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 12:53 PM)
That would be the point in having a police force, they are supposed to protect people from those who are dangerous. Of course this doesn't work most of the time but that doesn't mean that everyone should be able to get a gun, that just leads to more problems, to people shooting someone because they get angry or shooting someone by accident.

But guns have also saved lives as well.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:55 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:53 PM)

That would be the point in having a police force, they are supposed to protect people from those who are dangerous. Of course this doesn't work most of the time but that doesn't mean that everyone should be able to get a gun, that just leads to more problems, to people shooting someone because they get angry or shooting someone by accident.

The police can't be with you every moment of your life. It only takes one moment for something terrible to happen.

A gun is for protection, and that is all it should be used for.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 06:47 PM)
And people say we can't have serious discussions at Haven.

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And I have a headache. sad.gif

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:55 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:53 PM)

That would be the point in having a police force, they are supposed to protect people from those who are dangerous. Of course this doesn't work most of the time but that doesn't mean that everyone should be able to get a gun, that just leads to more problems, to people shooting someone because they get angry or shooting someone by accident.

The police can't be with you every moment of your life. It only takes one moment for something terrible to happen.

A gun is for protection, and that is all it should be used for.

That's why I said they aren't effective most of the time. However if you make them accessible for everyone as protection they will also be accessible to people who want to use them for negative reasons.
Of course making them harder to get doesn't stop this but it isn't sensible to allow everyone to have a gun because it will lead to more accidents and more angry shootings.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:53 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:50 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:48 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:40 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 18 2009, 06:37 PM)
But seriously, you can't compare a bat to a gun.

Guns can be used by anyone. They can fire from long range. They can ricochet, and go through wood, brick, etc.

Just use regulation/limits...

Seriously not everyone know how to use a gun. Everyone I've ever met that can use their arms can thrash around madly with a bat.

A lot of people know how to though and it's very easy to learn.

Ma'am, I've seen guys in the marines that didn't know how to use a gun. But they could all punch you in the face

I know lots of people my age who can shoot, I know of several hundred more who can shoot. Also don't call me ma'am!

The thing is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat, given a choice of weapon peope will choose a gun. As long as they can get guns they will get them rather than using a bat, if they can't get a gun then they will get a bat or whatever other weapon they can find.

Or they'll not give up their gun and keep it away from the eyes of the government.

I meant that they can get them, if they already have them then it's different of course, there is basically nothing you can do if they have a gun and really want to keep it.

Exactly. So taking away guns would only mean we can't defend ourselves from the people who kept their's

That would be the point in having a police force, they are supposed to protect people from those who are dangerous. Of course this doesn't work most of the time but that doesn't mean that everyone should be able to get a gun, that just leads to more problems, to people shooting someone because they get angry or shooting someone by accident.

Yeah... my neighbor called up the police and said that there was a man with a gun outside... they arrived 45 minutes later, he had to take care of himself. He would have been dead without his 12 ga.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 06:59 PM
This would be easier if we listen to Chris Rock. Get bullet control, not gun control.

"Man, I would shoot you up if bullets weren't 5,000 dollars each!"

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 06:59 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 06:58 PM)
However if you make them accessible for everyone as protection they will also be accessible to people who want to use them for negative reasons.

You have to take the good with the bad.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 07:00 PM
Taking away guns, is just invitation for people to come up with more creative ways to kill people.

Posted by: L Bison Apr 18 2009, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:59 PM)
This would be easier if we listen to Chris Rock. Get bullet control, not gun control.

"Man, I would shoot you up if bullets weren't 5,000 dollars each!"

Lmao yeah no more innocent bystanders, a man with eight bullets in his back clearly deserves it.

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 01:00 PM)
Taking away guns, is just invitation for people to come up with more creative ways to kill people.

It also works the other way.

If everbody has a gun, peole are going to look for bigger and better weapons.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (L Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:59 PM)
This would be easier if we listen to Chris Rock. Get bullet control, not gun control.

"Man, I would shoot you up if bullets weren't 5,000 dollars each!"

Lmao yeah no more innocent bystanders, a man with eight bullets in his back clearly deserves it.

mellow.gif happy.gif laugh.gif happy.gif laugh.gif happy.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:04 PM
Wow, first time I've ever made a topic a hot-topic

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 07:05 PM
This isn't your topic. It's Nickers.

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM
I think we should all become more like bassetman. That way everyone would be too hungry/lazy to kill anybody.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 07:05 PM)
This isn't your topic. It's Nickers.

Yeah, but without me, it would have ended already

Posted by: Solomon Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Haven_of_Wiidom/index.php?showtopic=638&st=15

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM)
I think we should all become more like bassetman. That way everyone would be too hungry/lazy to kill anybody.

Unless everyone gets too hungry and eats all the food. Then we'd have to... laugh.gif

Posted by: M Bison Apr 18 2009, 07:11 PM
It's amusing. People like Solomon can bring up good points I'll admit.

But Judge Death still comes off as an idiot, even with people supporting him.

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:14 PM
QUOTE (M Bison @ Apr 18 2009, 07:11 PM)
It's amusing. People like Solomon can bring up good points I'll admit.

But Judge Death still comes off as an idiot, even with people supporting him.

Wow, mutual feelings, imagine that

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:16 PM
We need a damsel for our RP

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 18 2009, 01:16 PM)
We need a damsel for our RP

...?

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM)
I think we should all become more like bassetman. That way everyone would be too hungry/lazy to kill anybody.

Just go with the flow. biggrin.gif

"You're a muslim extremist?"

"That's great!"

"WHO WANTS BACON!?"

*Happily ever-after*

Posted by: Judge Death Apr 18 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 07:19 PM)
Just go with the flow. biggrin.gif

"You're a muslim extremist?"

"That's great!"

"WHO WANTS BACON!?"

*Happily ever-after*

Oh Basset. laugh.gif

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 01:19 PM)
Just go with the flow. biggrin.gif

"You're a muslim extremist?"

"That's great!"

"WHO WANTS BACON!?"

*Happily ever-after*

Muslims can't eat pig tongue.gif

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Apr 18 2009, 07:20 PM)
Muslims can't eat pig tongue.gif

Apple Pie then.

It's my birthday cake every year. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jailer411 Apr 18 2009, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 01:22 PM)
Apple Pie then.

It's my birthday cake every year. biggrin.gif

Yes.

Posted by: Darkender Apr 18 2009, 07:26 PM
The kids probably joking unless you gave him a reason to think that you're gay.

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM)
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Haven_of_Wiidom/index.php?showtopic=638&st=15

"What's up yall?" huh.gif Wow you were very different back then... and you still used smilies! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Bassetman Apr 18 2009, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 18 2009, 09:28 PM)
"What's up yall?" huh.gif Wow you were very different back then... and you still used smilies! ohmy.gif

We've all grown up a lot, spelling or otherwise.

Also Wingy's presence made Solomon as perky as a schoolgirl. tongue.gif

Posted by: GruntKilla06 Apr 18 2009, 09:55 PM
QUOTE (Bassetman @ Apr 18 2009, 09:44 PM)
We've all grown up a lot, spelling or otherwise.

Also Wingy's presence made Solomon as perky as a schoolgirl. tongue.gif

Oh I see. wink.gif

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