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Posted by: Solomon Jan 12 2009, 07:24 PM
As your new Head Administrator I feel the need to bring forth a few issues that have plagued this site. First off let me just say that I'm very happy to be in the position I'm in, and will use this new found power for the benefit of Haven. Remember if anyone has questions, comments, or concerns you are more than welcome to PM at any time.
Secondly I would also like to extend a personal thank you for the team of Administrators that have all done a fantastic Job in keeping this site going. You have my thanks.
Finally, before I start to get more detailed on the issues that I feel need to be addressed, I think that is essential that we all play a part in the improvement of this Admins, and Members alike. This seems kind of vague right now, but I'll go into more detail a little later. The fact of the matter is that making this site better is not possible without your help....all of your help. I can't do this alone. So You have to ask yourself do I really want to make this place one of the most sought after places on the internet?

Posted by: treacherous Jan 13 2009, 02:41 AM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 12 2009, 07:24 PM)
As your new Head Administrator I feel the need to bring forth a few issues that have plagued this site. First off let me just say that I'm very happy to be in the position I'm in, and will use this new found power for the benefit of Haven. Remember if anyone has questions, comments, or concerns you are more than welcome to PM at any time.
Secondly I would also like to extend a personal thank you for the team of Administrators that have all done a fantastic Job in keeping this site going. You have my thanks.
Finally, before I start to get more detailed on the issues that I feel need to be addressed, I think that is essential that we all play a part in the improvement of this Admins, and Members alike. This seems kind of vague right now, but I'll go into more detail a little later. The fact of the matter is that making this site better is not possible without your help....all of your help. I can't do this alone. So You have to ask yourself do I really want to make this place one of the most sought after places on the internet?

Mr. Presidito!

Posted by: Guardian of Nesh Jan 13 2009, 02:43 AM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 12 2009, 02:24 PM)
As your new Head Administrator I feel the need to bring forth a few issues that have plagued this site. First off let me just say that I'm very happy to be in the position I'm in, and will use this new found power for the benefit of Haven. Remember if anyone has questions, comments, or concerns you are more than welcome to PM at any time.
Secondly I would also like to extend a personal thank you for the team of Administrators that have all done a fantastic Job in keeping this site going. You have my thanks.
Finally, before I start to get more detailed on the issues that I feel need to be addressed, I think that is essential that we all play a part in the improvement of this Admins, and Members alike. This seems kind of vague right now, but I'll go into more detail a little later. The fact of the matter is that making this site better is not possible without your help....all of your help. I can't do this alone. So You have to ask yourself do I really want to make this place one of the most sought after places on the internet?

This is why it's good you're running this, you rally the troops like no other, for the right cause and under the right banner. Carry on.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 13 2009, 03:02 AM
Thanks.

Anyways, the problem is I cant just press a few buttons to have this site be wonderful, if I could I would, but sadly I can't. I can rally on, and on, I can make new categories, and I can even make a change to the look of the site. All that considered it will mean very little if I do not have the cooperation, and complete understanding of the members.

Let me ask you all something. What makes a great site? Is it the way it looks? The Idea behind the site? The team of Admins? All of those are wrong. While the things mentioned do have their place in making a site great, they do not compare to the single most important aspect of a great site. The members.

The members of the site are the very fabric of what makes up this, and any other site. The collection of people determine the flow of this site, not me, not phanalx not any one person, but all of us. Keep that in mind as I continue to address some issues.

Issue #1: BORING!

No offense to any of you, but this site is lacking the excitement it once had. I think that this is because most of our topics are devoted to random drabble, the latest CBUB gossip, and who's being suspended. While those things are fun to see everyonce in a while they are not something to bas a site off of. What made this site so good, and kept people intrested was the fact that debates use to be the focal point of this site, not seeing who the most random person was. Also, I'm not calling for the end of all things fun. I'm calling for an end to all things pointless. I believe that we need to go back to the old ways so to speak. As I have said before we can't make this happen with out everyone contributing. I would like to encourage ALL of you to try to spark a debate. You know what I mean. Post around in the history, and sports sections, return to the fight section (which have been ignored for the most part), and create an RP that keeps people looking at the clock so they can rush home, and get on their computer to see what will happen next. Heck even chit chat can be used for better purposes. Be creative.

Posted by: Guardian of Nesh Jan 13 2009, 03:06 AM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 12 2009, 10:02 PM)
Thanks.

Anyways, the problem is I cant just press a few buttons to have this site be wonderful, if I could I would, but sadly I can't. I can rally on, and on, I can make new categories, and I can even make a change to the look of the site. All that considered it will mean very little if I do not have the cooperation, and complete understanding of the members.

Let me ask you all something. What makes a great site? Is it the way it looks? The Idea behind the site? The team of Admins? All of those are wrong. While the things mentioned do have their place in making a site great, they do not compare to the single most important aspect of a great site. The members.

The members of the site are the very fabric of what makes up this, and any other site. The collection of people determine the flow of this site, not me, not phanalx not any one person, but all of us. Keep that in mind as I continue to address some issues.

Issue #1: BORING!

No offense to any of you, but this site is lacking the excitement it once had. I think that this is because most of our topics are devoted to random drabble, the latest CBUB gossip, and who's being suspended. While those things are fun to see everyonce in a while they are not something to bas a site off of. What made this site so good, and kept people intrested was the fact that debates use to be the focal point of this site, not seeing who the most random person was. Also, I'm not calling for the end of all things fun. I'm calling for an end to all things pointless. I believe that we need to go back to the old ways so to speak. As I have said before we can't make this happen with out everyone contributing. I would like to encourage ALL of you to try to spark a debate. You know what I mean. Post around in the history, and sports sections, return to the fight section (which have been ignored for the most part), and create an RP that keeps people looking at the clock so they can rush home, and get on their computer to see what will happen next. Heck even chit chat can be used for better purposes. Be creative.

If I may, a Treach RP alwyas gets people excited. It isn't much but it'd be a start.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 13 2009, 03:07 AM
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Jan 13 2009, 03:06 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 12 2009, 10:02 PM)
Thanks.

Anyways, the problem is I cant just press a few buttons to have this site be wonderful, if I could I would, but sadly I can't. I can rally on, and on, I can make new categories, and I can even make a change to the look of the site. All that considered it will mean very little if I do not have the cooperation, and complete understanding of the members.

Let me ask you all something. What makes a great site? Is it the way it looks? The Idea behind the site? The team of Admins? All of those are wrong. While the things mentioned do have their place in making a site great, they do not compare to the single most important aspect of a great site. The members.

The members of the site are the very fabric of what makes up this, and any other site. The collection of people determine the flow of this site, not me, not phanalx not any one person, but all of us. Keep that in mind as I continue to address some issues.

Issue #1: BORING!

No offense to any of you, but this site is lacking the excitement it once had. I think that this is because most of our topics are devoted to random drabble, the latest CBUB gossip, and who's being suspended. While those things are fun to see everyonce in a while they are not something to bas a site off of. What made this site so good, and kept people intrested was the fact that debates use to be the focal point of this site, not seeing who the most random person was. Also, I'm not calling for the end of all things fun. I'm calling for an end to all things pointless. I believe that we need to go back to the old ways so to speak. As I have said before we can't make this happen with out everyone contributing. I would like to encourage ALL of you to try to spark a debate. You know what I mean. Post around in the history, and sports sections, return to the fight  section (which have been ignored for the most part), and create an RP that keeps people looking at the clock so they can rush home, and  get on their computer to see what will happen next. Heck even chit chat can be used for better purposes. Be creative.

If I may, a Treach RP alwyas gets people excited. It isn't much but it'd be a start.

Hey if it works. Go for it.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

Posted by: Guardian of Nesh Jan 13 2009, 03:10 AM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 12 2009, 10:07 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Jan 13 2009, 03:06 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 12 2009, 10:02 PM)
Thanks.

Anyways, the problem is I cant just press a few buttons to have this site be wonderful, if I could I would, but sadly I can't. I can rally on, and on, I can make new categories, and I can even make a change to the look of the site. All that considered it will mean very little if I do not have the cooperation, and complete understanding of the members.

Let me ask you all something. What makes a great site? Is it the way it looks? The Idea behind the site? The team of Admins? All of those are wrong. While the things mentioned do have their place in making a site great, they do not compare to the single most important aspect of a great site. The members.

The members of the site are the very fabric of what makes up this, and any other site. The collection of people determine the flow of this site, not me, not phanalx not any one person, but all of us. Keep that in mind as I continue to address some issues.

Issue #1: BORING!

No offense to any of you, but this site is lacking the excitement it once had. I think that this is because most of our topics are devoted to random drabble, the latest CBUB gossip, and who's being suspended. While those things are fun to see everyonce in a while they are not something to bas a site off of. What made this site so good, and kept people intrested was the fact that debates use to be the focal point of this site, not seeing who the most random person was. Also, I'm not calling for the end of all things fun. I'm calling for an end to all things pointless. I believe that we need to go back to the old ways so to speak. As I have said before we can't make this happen with out everyone contributing. I would like to encourage ALL of you to try to spark a debate. You know what I mean. Post around in the history, and sports sections, return to the fight  section (which have been ignored for the most part), and create an RP that keeps people looking at the clock so they can rush home, and  get on their computer to see what will happen next. Heck even chit chat can be used for better purposes. Be creative.

If I may, a Treach RP alwyas gets people excited. It isn't much but it'd be a start.

Hey if it works. Go for it.

I'll have to convince him. It shouldn't be hard but still... You have my full support not that it counts for much. Tell me what you want me to do and I'll do what I can.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 13 2009, 03:11 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

I like the haven productions idea. If people followed through with it, I think it would be pretty interesting. Also, I feel that a complete site deletion is unnecessary. Haven is like a building. We have to rebuild the top floors the rest of the building is good. However, I do agree that we need stop the excessive randomness, and the RPing in the non-RP zones.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Jan 13 2009, 03:19 AM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:11 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

I like the haven productions idea. If people followed through with it, I think it would be pretty interesting. Also, I feel that a complete site deletion is unnecessary. Haven is like a building. We have to rebuild the top floors the rest of the building is good. However, I do agree that we need stop the excessive randomness, and the RPing in the non-RP zones.

Then rebuild the Top 50 floors and leave the ground floor and basement.

Posted by: Guardian of Nesh Jan 13 2009, 03:21 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:19 PM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:11 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

I like the haven productions idea. If people followed through with it, I think it would be pretty interesting. Also, I feel that a complete site deletion is unnecessary. Haven is like a building. We have to rebuild the top floors the rest of the building is good. However, I do agree that we need stop the excessive randomness, and the RPing in the non-RP zones.

Then rebuild the Top 50 floors and leave the ground floor and basement.

No offense ment Surfer but let's try it Wolvie's way first. He's only been in chrge a few hours. I have faith in him.

Posted by: darkender Jan 13 2009, 03:23 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

Haven Comics (if ever completed) could bring some more people into here witch would solve our member needy problem. I do think we need to get serious on this Rping thing though. I'm tired of talking to people and then they begin to rp to prove a point. Its quite immature.

Posted by: Guardian of Nesh Jan 13 2009, 03:25 AM
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 12 2009, 10:23 PM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

Haven Comics (if ever completed) could bring some more people into here witch would solve our member needy problem. I do think we need to get serious on this Rping thing though. I'm tired of talking to people and then they begin to rp to prove a point. Its quite immature.

Darkender, the Haven Comic are now fully yours, I'm gonna be busy helping Wolvie. Do your best.

Posted by: darkender Jan 13 2009, 03:29 AM
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Jan 13 2009, 03:25 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 12 2009, 10:23 PM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

Haven Comics (if ever completed) could bring some more people into here witch would solve our member needy problem. I do think we need to get serious on this Rping thing though. I'm tired of talking to people and then they begin to rp to prove a point. Its quite immature.

Darkender, the Haven Comic are now fully yours, I'm gonna be busy helping Wolvie. Do your best.

Okay, but I need Grano back and I need Trech. I don't want to be the one to take full credit on this thing. I don't want to do it by myself. I'll get it going as best I can though.

Posted by: Guardian of Nesh Jan 13 2009, 03:30 AM
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 12 2009, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian of Nesh @ Jan 13 2009, 03:25 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 12 2009, 10:23 PM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

Haven Comics (if ever completed) could bring some more people into here witch would solve our member needy problem. I do think we need to get serious on this Rping thing though. I'm tired of talking to people and then they begin to rp to prove a point. Its quite immature.

Darkender, the Haven Comic are now fully yours, I'm gonna be busy helping Wolvie. Do your best.

Okay, but I need Grano back and I need Trech. I don't want to be the one to take full credit on this thing. I don't want to do it by myself. I'll get it going as best I can though.

I don't know where Grano went but you should be able to get Treach.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 13 2009, 03:34 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:19 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:11 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

I like the haven productions idea. If people followed through with it, I think it would be pretty interesting. Also, I feel that a complete site deletion is unnecessary. Haven is like a building. We have to rebuild the top floors the rest of the building is good. However, I do agree that we need stop the excessive randomness, and the RPing in the non-RP zones.

Then rebuild the Top 50 floors and leave the ground floor and basement.

I'm trying to. Its Home, and Garden: Haven Edition.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

Posted by: ND4 Jan 13 2009, 03:37 AM
Whoo!! Go Wolvie!!! Hey um Wolvie can we have like a contest each Monday ? Because Darkender never said who the winner of the second one was and the old one where me and Datasnake won we never got to make our contest.

Oh and to get more members.If you know someone who is intrestded in fourms .Tell them to check this site out. Like how Grano got his wife to come here.
Oh and also like how Darkender got Mimi to come.

Posted by: darkender Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM)
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

We lock them to keep it structured so no unwanted posting is done.

Posted by: darkender Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM
QUOTE (ND4 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:37 AM)
Whoo!! Go Wolvie!!! Hey um Wolvie can we have like a contest each Monday ? Because Darkender never said who the winner of the second one was and the old one where me and Datasnake won we never got to make our contest.

Oh and to get more members.If you know someone who is intrestded in fourms .Tell them to check this site out. Like how Grano got his wife to come here.
Oh and also like how Darkender got Mimi to come.

Don't worry Nd4, I'll get the contest going.

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM)
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

We lock them to keep it structured so no unwanted posting is done.

You miss the point. The point was for someone to give me the password.

Posted by: darkender Jan 13 2009, 03:42 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM)
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

We lock them to keep it structured so no unwanted posting is done.

You miss the point. The point was for someone to give me the password.

Sure, I'll give you the passwords.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 13 2009, 03:43 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM)
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

We lock them to keep it structured so no unwanted posting is done.

You miss the point. The point was for someone to give me the password.

Do you want to be a writer? A critic? An editor (that might be good since you have displayed intrest in becoming an English teacher.)

Posted by: SilverSurfer092 Jan 13 2009, 03:48 AM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:43 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM)
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

We lock them to keep it structured so no unwanted posting is done.

You miss the point. The point was for someone to give me the password.

Do you want to be a writer? A critic? An editor (that might be good since you have displayed intrest in becoming an English teacher.)

Fallback plan. I want to be a Social Studies teacher k. But I'll go with Editor I suppose.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 13 2009, 03:52 AM
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:48 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:43 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (darkender @ Jan 13 2009, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:36 AM)
Oh, about Haven Productions. No locked forum will do this site any good.

We lock them to keep it structured so no unwanted posting is done.

You miss the point. The point was for someone to give me the password.

Do you want to be a writer? A critic? An editor (that might be good since you have displayed intrest in becoming an English teacher.)

Fallback plan. I want to be a Social Studies teacher k. But I'll go with Editor I suppose.

You just felt left out didnt you?

Cool, how about I'll be the editor for the writing part of it, and you can be the conventions, and grammar guy?

If you want to talk more PM me. I dont want to divert this topic.

Posted by: treacherous Jan 13 2009, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:34 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:19 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Jan 13 2009, 03:11 AM)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Jan 13 2009, 03:08 AM)
Honestly? Renovation would help. Hell, renovation isn't extreme enough. DELETE EVERYTHING. Then rebuild it. Make sure that people keep the random and RP'ing in the Random and RP section. Delete all posts and after a certain number of infringements, suspend them for a day or two until they realize where to post RP'ing and Random thoughts. Don't have it so cluttered. Make it a forum, not some place to think of making comics (IE Haven Productions).

I like the haven productions idea. If people followed through with it, I think it would be pretty interesting. Also, I feel that a complete site deletion is unnecessary. Haven is like a building. We have to rebuild the top floors the rest of the building is good. However, I do agree that we need stop the excessive randomness, and the RPing in the non-RP zones.

Then rebuild the Top 50 floors and leave the ground floor and basement.

I'm trying to. Its Home, and Garden: Haven Edition.

I can do the RP thing Nesh, but I'm not moderating it. I'll wait till Grano comes back. He was a great moderator in my RP's. But, I'll set it up.

Posted by: Bassetman Jan 13 2009, 07:17 PM
I honestly didn't like Haven's early days that much.

Anywho, I agree wholeheartedly that members are key to a site. We need diversity.

Posted by: Solomon Jan 15 2009, 09:32 PM
Alright I've been the leader for a couple of days now, and I can honestly say that I think things are starting to turn up hill for us, but it wont change over night. We need consistency.

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