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Title: Legendary pokemon tier list
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Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 12:34 AM (GMT)
So you know tier one is the strongest so power goes in descending order.
Tear 1:

Mew Mewtwo

Tear 2:

Arceus Giratina

Tear 3:

Dialga Palkia Darkrai

Tear 4: Unknown Celebi Deoxys Jirachi Uxie Mesprit Azleaf

Tear 5:

Rayquazza

Tear 6: Ho-oh Lugia

Tear 7: Articuno Moltres Zapdos Latios Latias Entei Suicune Raikou

Tear 8: Kyorge Groudon

Sub-Tier: (Somewhere between 8 & 9 but not a tier): Manaphy*

Tear 9: Regigigas Lugia** Entei*** Suicune*** Raikou*** Mesprit**** Uxie**** Azleaf****

Tear 10: Regirock Regice Registeel


* Manaphy gets a sub-tier because itís title prince of the Sea makes it inferior to Kyorge but superior to Lugia (See the second note.)

** Lugia is tiers 6& 9 because while flying Pokemon answer to Rayquazza Lugia is also Guardain of the Sea which makes it answer to Kyogre as well.

*** Entei, Suicune, and Raikou were created by Ho-oh which puts them on tier 7 but they are Pokemon that travel on the ground making them subject to Groudon putting them in tier 9.

**** Uxie, Azleaf, and Mesprit were created by Dialga and Palkia putting them on tier 4 but are Pokemon that dwell in water making them subject to Kyorge putting them on tier 9 as well.

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 01:27 AM (GMT)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 01:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 01:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful


Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 02:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:46 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:08 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:46 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

5. But DBZ is far far far more respected than Pokemon and Digimon.

Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 02:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:08 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:46 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:22 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:08 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:46 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 02:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:24 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:22 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:08 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:46 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:24 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:22 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:08 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:46 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 02:34 AM (GMT)
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i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:34 AM)
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i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?


Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 02:41 AM (GMT)
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QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:24 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:22 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:08 AM)
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QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:43 AM (GMT)
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QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

He wasn't always mister logic himself.

1. He said that Mr. Mxyptlz could beat the looney tunes, which is utter bullshit and ignored on my argument of how Arceus can help pokemon beat all the digimon, though the latter is relatively minor.

2. He underestimated Pokemon, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia on their side. Remember?

3. The Fates are still beyond almost all gods due to their fate and time/space powers, so there.

Guardian Of Nesh - July 4, 2008 02:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:43 PM)
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QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 09:31 PM)
QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 02:28 AM)
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QUOTE (Guardian Of Nesh @ Jul 4 2008, 01:33 AM)
QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

He wasn't always mister logic himself.

1. He said that Mr. Mxyptlz could beat the looney tunes, which is utter bullshit and ignored on my argument of how Arceus can help pokemon beat all the digimon, though the latter is relatively minor.

2. He underestimated Pokemon, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia on their side. Remember?

3. The Fates are still beyond almost all gods due to their fate and time/space powers, so there.

fine, whatever. You can be a pain, yo know. -_-

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:47 AM (GMT)
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i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

He wasn't always mister logic himself.

1. He said that Mr. Mxyptlz could beat the looney tunes, which is utter bullshit and ignored on my argument of how Arceus can help pokemon beat all the digimon, though the latter is relatively minor.

2. He underestimated Pokemon, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia on their side. Remember?

3. The Fates are still beyond almost all gods due to their fate and time/space powers, so there.

fine, whatever. You can be a pain, yo know. -_-

I'm just saying even hamboy has his own flaws that you guys won't admit.

oh and i made the list.

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i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

He wasn't always mister logic himself.

1. He said that Mr. Mxyptlz could beat the looney tunes, which is utter bullshit and ignored on my argument of how Arceus can help pokemon beat all the digimon, though the latter is relatively minor.

2. He underestimated Pokemon, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia on their side. Remember?

3. The Fates are still beyond almost all gods due to their fate and time/space powers, so there.

fine, whatever. You can be a pain, yo know. -_-

I'm just saying even hamboy has his own flaws that you guys won't admit.

oh and i made the list.

I know; I do too. So what are my flaws.

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 02:51 AM (GMT)
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i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

He wasn't always mister logic himself.

1. He said that Mr. Mxyptlz could beat the looney tunes, which is utter bullshit and ignored on my argument of how Arceus can help pokemon beat all the digimon, though the latter is relatively minor.

2. He underestimated Pokemon, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia on their side. Remember?

3. The Fates are still beyond almost all gods due to their fate and time/space powers, so there.

fine, whatever. You can be a pain, yo know. -_-

I'm just saying even hamboy has his own flaws that you guys won't admit.

oh and i made the list.

I know; I do too. So what are my flaws.

All i can say is that they're nowhere as big as hamboy's, despite his title of "Mr. Logic".

Your flaws. I'm not so sure. At worst, you also underestimated pokemon sometimes too, I think and I'm not sure what else except that you always beat m in debates which I hate to admit, but you're good (frieza is faster than the flash?).


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QUOTE (Phalanx @ Jul 3 2008, 08:27 PM)
i'd put regigigas above the three legendary birds and you put Arceus below Mewtwo and Mew, when he is clearly the supreme diety of all four generations of pokemon so far?

Well my logic about the birds was the sky is below space and the Earth is blow the sky. Like how in Emerald Rayquazza made Kyorgre and Groudon retreat by showing up. So sky > Land and sea pokemon.

2. You know my stance on the whole mew arceus thing; I even hinted at in the Greek god thing. I just use Arceus to appeal to you.

Well I do agree sky is above both land and sea, but Regigigas seems to be physically stronger than the three legendary birds by a large margin.

About Arceus, I guess that was a good way to appeal to me, but I gotta tell you this:

The reason I, in your eyes, am "disrespecting" Pokemon was because I lost half my faith in the Pokemon army's power ever since that day in November 2007 where the main issue wasn't about me hating digimon (though it was the most painful loss since they were both my childhood memories), it was mainly because of how underestimated pokemon were against many things in fiction, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia we still couldn't cut it against digimon let alone anything from dc or marvel (especially that hamboy had to ruin everything, I hope he was real happy).

I originally looked up to Pokemon like Arceus, dialga, palkia and other legendaries as saviors to Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs. Sony debate I had in my head during the summer was just incredibly painful, Kratos was so ridiculously overpowered and Link, the nintendo character that I formerly thought to be the strongest, couldn't beat him and i had to find a new savior. Pokemon was that savior and I was really upset to see them lose to Digimon the moment after I had celebrated on giving Nintendo the way to beat Sony's best.

I felt Pokemon were the strongest Nintendo series ever and I was ashamed to see them like "OMG THEY'RE LOSING TO DIGIMON AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FICTION!". It was just really sad and heartaching that all they could beat in the eyes of dc/marvel fanboys were the Care Bears and weaker-tier characters. When I was so focused on trying to find an argument on how pokemon could beat digimon, I felt too distressed and it was like my whole life was crumbling into hell.

As of 2008, I felt disheartened about Pokemon and i had to detach my feelings to them since I wanted to spare my pain. During that day, I shifted my affections and interests to greek/roman mythology and capcom/snk more, since they were my only things to replace nintendo/pokemon as my best favorite (though I still retain my like for nintendo/pokemon).

Just thinking about it was so painful

Get over the whole fandom thing! imo you aren't acting like a pokemon fan by detaching yourself. I'm furious about how underestimated DBZ but I don't detach myself and find new things that people respect so I don't feel bad. I'm a tue fan.

About Regigigas: All legenaries expt Arceus have the same stats in th wild and this tier lis is based my prefence on some thing and Poedex entries as well as stats. So how'd I'd do on the list overall?

1. Your list is great.

2. The truth is during 2007, I didn't really have any inner affection for them (those were just the heydays in 1998), I only revered them, because they were Nintendo (I was very sensitive about nintendo's position in the character/console war) and I saw them as a savior for the fact that I thought they were the strongest Nintendo series and the trump card to defeat God of War Kratos. In other words, Pokemon was supposed to Nintendo's trump card against the most powerful characters Sony has, such as Kratos, though their character library is so much smaller than nintendo, sega, and even snk.

Pokemon were intially my source of confidence and strength for Nintendo's victory against other companies.

3. So during the time I lamented about pokemon being underestimated, what were your thoughts and reactions on me?

4. the underestimation of even arceus was the reason I didn't like hamboy.

I personaly think you take things too far and need to see a shink before you lose it. (no offense ment.)

Hey you should make your own tier list; I'd love to see it.

1. If pokemon is not the strongest thing Nintendo has, then what is?

2. DBZ is far more respected than pokemon and digimon.

3. I've already got over the thing since 2008, it's just a grim reminder of how I would feel during debates like these.

I never said pokemon wasn't their strongest.

2. I don't know about that... you'd be surpised

3. I mean you get onto a kick and think no one can be that kick then abandon it when proven wrong.

1. not exactly proven wrong, but just rejected.

2. right now I'm kinda tired of odin/norse fanboys underestimating Zeus just as much as you with power cosmic fanboys underestimating DBZ, yet I still cling onto Greek/roman mythology as it is an abstract of art, ideas, and concepts.

3. what is the strongest nintendo series and character in your opinion?

4. check out my last post on hades vs. giratina + darkrai.

5. don't you just hate hamboy sometimes?

Pokemon as asries but if anyone ever got their hands on the full Triforce they'd kill Arceus.

I reallly want to see you make a Legendary Pokemon tier list.

well you answer the rest of my questions in my last post if i try?

Yes, I will. I checked ouy the Haddes match snd when I read wikipedia it said the Fates were agents of destiny not Goddesses and tha Chaos was a state of notingness the older titans came out of.

I can get mad at Hamboy but he is logic so in the end we're cool

He wasn't always mister logic himself.

1. He said that Mr. Mxyptlz could beat the looney tunes, which is utter bullshit and ignored on my argument of how Arceus can help pokemon beat all the digimon, though the latter is relatively minor.

2. He underestimated Pokemon, even with Arceus/Dialga/Palkia on their side. Remember?

3. The Fates are still beyond almost all gods due to their fate and time/space powers, so there.

fine, whatever. You can be a pain, yo know. -_-

I'm just saying even hamboy has his own flaws that you guys won't admit.

oh and i made the list.

I know; I do too. So what are my flaws.

All i can say is that they're nowhere as big as hamboy's, despite his title of "Mr. Logic".

Your flaws. I'm not so sure. At worst, you also underestimated pokemon sometimes too, I think and I'm not sure what else except that you always beat m in debates which I hate to admit, but you're good (frieza is faster than the flash?).

okay. btw I don't think Frieza's that fast. Any Buu incarnation a possibly perfect Cell and anyone who can match them but Frieza?

Phalanx - July 4, 2008 08:53 PM (GMT)
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It's just my thought. I can't really find any flaws of you, except the time where I believed you'd say pokemon would win, but didn't.




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