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Title: Who should appear in Spiderman 4?
Description: Which villains shoud be in the next one?


Judge Death - April 23, 2009 03:41 PM (GMT)
Spiderman 4 is set to be released May of 2011, with filming to begin in 2010.
Which villains do you think should appear in the film?
Raimi told Dylan Baker, that if he returned to direct, he would turn Connors into the Lizard. Raimi is returning for the 4th, and so is Baker. So The Lizard is to be expected.
Also, there will be a Venom film, but Topher Grace is not set to return, I think that not only would it be the best choice, but they will have Carnage in the film.
Spiderman 5 will be filmed with 4, to make production cheaper, and is set for release in 2012. The Sinister Six would probably be be in the film, if they introduced 2 members for #4, and 2 for #5. They would also have to bring back Doc Ock and Sandman (as a villain). Do you think this a wise choice?

The poll is for, who do you think would be the best villains for #4? Scorpion is not under consideration, I just added him
You have two choices because they have limited the number of villains in the second movie to 2.

Ethan - April 23, 2009 09:10 PM (GMT)
Let's see, Ock's dead, Goblin's dead, Venom's dead. Gee, there goes all the best spidey villians there is. Sandman's already good, he made peace with Parker at the end of 3, so he's out. Electro should be next, if they choose Shocker, they should pair him with Electro, because Shocker sucks on his own. Scorpion sucks too. Where's Rhino? Morbius is awesome, he hits Spidey even harder than Hulk, he should be in 5.

videogameman - April 23, 2009 09:35 PM (GMT)
The Lizard for the personal factor and Kraven can tie into it, trying to hunt Spidey and connors, cause he is a hunter. Scorpion and Morbius could work too. Electro next, Vulture, never, if he does, only as a minor villian. he's cool, but he's not threahtening.

treacherous - April 23, 2009 09:38 PM (GMT)
I don't see any of those villains carrying a whole movie. After you've had Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom, you've pretty much handled the toughest, smartest opponents for him. I say let Spidey go for a while. Save some money.

Judge Death - April 23, 2009 10:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ethan @ Apr 23 2009, 09:10 PM)
Let's see, Ock's dead, Goblin's dead, Venom's dead. Gee, there goes all the best spidey villians there is. Sandman's already good, he made peace with Parker at the end of 3, so he's out. Electro should be next, if they choose Shocker, they should pair him with Electro, because Shocker sucks on his own. Scorpion sucks too. Where's Rhino? Morbius is awesome, he hits Spidey even harder than Hulk, he should be in 5.

Doc Ock may not be dead (if they do decide to do the SS) and Venom is not dead. They're giving him his own movie. You didn't see it, but he jumped away with most of the symbiote, says Marvel anywho

Judge Death - April 23, 2009 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (videogameman @ Apr 23 2009, 09:35 PM)
The Lizard for the personal factor and Kraven can tie into it, trying to hunt Spidey and connors, cause he is a hunter. Scorpion and Morbius could work too. Electro next, Vulture, never, if he does, only as a minor villian. he's cool, but he's not threahtening.

Man, Electro would be awesome. But most people they aren't considering that would be a great full movie. They're having two people for him to fight

IonKidMax - April 23, 2009 10:29 PM (GMT)
I think Carnage should be in 5...along with a bunch of other symbiotes! ((Samuri}}

Judge Death - April 23, 2009 10:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IonKidMax @ Apr 23 2009, 10:29 PM)
I think Carnage should be in 5...along with a bunch of other symbiotes! ((Samuri}}

I don't know, but I think he'll end up in the Venom spin-off

Darkender - April 23, 2009 10:54 PM (GMT)
Carnage.

IonKidMax - April 23, 2009 10:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Apr 23 2009, 10:54 PM)
Carnage.

Yeah thats what I said!

Marvel Man - April 23, 2009 11:05 PM (GMT)
Unless they do a Sinister Six movie, they should let it go....

At least for a couple of years.

If they do make a 4, it needs to have a cool plot line. If they just insert villains randomly, it'll suck.
Also, they need to use good actors, not just famous ones (Topher?! WTF?).

My pick for #4 (Aside from SS), would be the Hobgoblin. He's a personal favorite.

Here's my take on the plot.

The movie opens with Spidey narrating what happened in his last movies. Suddenly he sees the Shocker assaulting a bank. He takes him down easily.

Back at home, Mary Jane has landed a large modeling deal, and is about to leave for Europe. She asks Peter for his opinion, when suddenly, sirens go by. Peter, quickly leaves, not anwsering Mary Jane. She mutters something, and says that Spider Man is keeping them apart.

Spidey meets the bad guy, the Vulture, a guy with mechanical wings.

Spidey is at first losing to him, but aquired help from a mysterious woman, the Black Cat. She fliers with him, but quickly goes off.

Spidey returns to MJ, only to find her gone, off on her tour. He plans to go stop her, but hears more sirens, angrily, he goes to stop the threat. It's Rhino, a big guy in a big mechanical suit. Spidey beats him, but notices it has the same symbol as Shocker's gloves and Vulture's wings.

Meanwhile, Connors has finished his serum to fix his arm. The serum seems to work.

Back with Spidey, Spider Man is getting closer on the man supplying the super criminals. He busts a warehouse, but the man activates his Spider Slayers, and runs. Spidey fights the slayers.

The man, by luck, runs into one of Osbourne's old warehouses. Smiling to himself, he begins to observe the machinery.

Spidey defeats the slayers, but is badly hurt. Crawling to his apartment, he doesn't make it and passes out. When he awakes, he finds himself in the Black Cat's arms. Still, too weak, he is nursed by Felicia. Slowly, he begins to have feelings for her, who already has feelings for him.

Meanwhile, the mysterious scientist (Could be Allister Smythe, or Kingsley), kidnaps Conners, for help with Osbourne's machines. He then becomes the Hobgoblin. He locks up Conners, while he suits up.

Spidey finally recovers, and departs, confused about his feelings for the Black Cat. He heads home.

Meanwhile, the Hobgoblin busts Shocker, Vulture, and Rhino from prison. At the same time, he contacts the Sandman, holding his daughter captive. He soon joins the Hobgoblin's team.

Together, they plan an assault on the World Bank. Easily defeating the guard and the police, only Spider Man goes to stop them. Black Cat soon joins him.

A fight then begins, with Spidey fighting them individoually. Taking each one out by themselves.

Back in the lab, Conners transforms into the Lizard, and heads for the battle.
To be Continued:

SilverSurfer092 - April 23, 2009 11:19 PM (GMT)
Spider-Man movies should have ended after the second one.

MarvelFan15 - April 23, 2009 11:20 PM (GMT)
Well, the others are cool, but what really draws people are the cool special effects.

If Lizard is in SM4, that movie will be packin' a lot of effects. Add Kraven hunting Spidey, a final show off, Kraven decides he wants to hunt Lizard instead. Parker, having feelings for Conners, goes to warn him.

Just as Spidey arrives, Kraven does too, but waits until they are done talking. Finally, he shows himself. He and Lizrd have a duel, with Lizard killing Kraven, but being mortally wounded. Spider-man is somehow forced to kill Lizard in a plot device.
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Another cool special effects draw would be Electro...

Judge Death - April 23, 2009 11:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 23 2009, 11:05 PM)
Unless they do a Sinister Six movie, they should let it go....

At least for a couple of years.

If they do make a 4, it needs to have a cool plot line. If they just insert villains randomly, it'll suck.
Also, they need to use good actors, not just famous ones (Topher?! WTF?).

My pick for #4 (Aside from SS), would be the Hobgoblin. He's a personal favorite.

Here's my take on the plot.

The movie opens with Spidey narrating what happened in his last movies. Suddenly he sees the Shocker assaulting a bank. He takes him down easily.

Back at home, Mary Jane has landed a large modeling deal, and is about to leave for Europe. She asks Peter for his opinion, when suddenly, sirens go by. Peter, quickly leaves, not anwsering Mary Jane. She mutters something, and says that Spider Man is keeping them apart.

Spidey meets the bad guy, the Vulture, a guy with mechanical wings.

Spidey is at first losing to him, but aquired help from a mysterious woman, the Black Cat. She fliers with him, but quickly goes off.

Spidey returns to MJ, only to find her gone, off on her tour. He plans to go stop her, but hears more sirens, angrily, he goes to stop the threat. It's Rhino, a big guy in a big mechanical suit. Spidey beats him, but notices it has the same symbol as Shocker's gloves and Vulture's wings.

Meanwhile, Connors has finished his serum to fix his arm. The serum seems to work.

Back with Spidey, Spider Man is getting closer on the man supplying the super criminals. He busts a warehouse, but the man activates his Spider Slayers, and runs. Spidey fights the slayers.

The man, by luck, runs into one of Osbourne's old warehouses. Smiling to himself, he begins to observe the machinery.

Spidey defeats the slayers, but is badly hurt. Crawling to his apartment, he doesn't make it and passes out. When he awakes, he finds himself in the Black Cat's arms. Still, too weak, he is nursed by Felicia. Slowly, he begins to have feelings for her, who already has feelings for him.

Meanwhile, the mysterious scientist (Could be Allister Smythe, or Kingsley), kidnaps Conners, for help with Osbourne's machines. He then becomes the Hobgoblin. He locks up Conners, while he suits up.

Spidey finally recovers, and departs, confused about his feelings for the Black Cat. He heads home.

Meanwhile, the Hobgoblin busts Shocker, Vulture, and Rhino from prison. At the same time, he contacts the Sandman, holding his daughter captive. He soon joins the Hobgoblin's team.

Together, they plan an assault on the World Bank. Easily defeating the guard and the police, only Spider Man goes to stop them. Black Cat soon joins him.

A fight then begins, with Spidey fighting them individoually. Taking each one out by themselves.

Back in the lab, Conners transforms into the Lizard, and heads for the battle.
To be Continued:

Whoa! The only thing I had against Spiderman 3 was they didn't have enough time to give everyone. This wouldn't do that well...

MarvelFan15 - April 23, 2009 11:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 23 2009, 11:19 PM)
Spider-Man movies should have ended after the second one.

Only because no one liked the third one...

But, if the fourth is good, will you watch it?

Judge Death - April 23, 2009 11:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 23 2009, 11:19 PM)
Spider-Man movies should have ended after the second one.

Does anyone agree with him?

treacherous - April 23, 2009 11:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 23 2009, 11:22 PM)
Does anyone agree with him?

They did a little too much with the third one. Sandman was good, but it seemed like Venom and Hobgoblin were just thrown in there. They should've kept with just one villain. My pick: Hobgoblin. That would've been the logical continuation of the series. Then Venom for part 4.

MarvelFan15 - April 23, 2009 11:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (treacherous @ Apr 23 2009, 11:33 PM)
They did a little too much with the third one. Sandman was good, but it seemed like Venom and Hobgoblin were just thrown in there. They should've kept with just one villain. My pick: Hobgoblin. That would've been the logical continuation of the series. Then Venom for part 4.

Agreed.

They could have made Venom so much better...

SilverSurfer092 - April 23, 2009 11:39 PM (GMT)
That wasn't Hobgoblin. And if it was, they screwed him up incredibly bad.


There have been 3 Green Goblins and about 14, I think, Hobgoblins. Harry is GG2

treacherous - April 23, 2009 11:41 PM (GMT)
Well, whatever the son was. In that case, Hobgoblin should be next.

Marvel Man - April 23, 2009 11:54 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I've decided that my script is too long and disorganized.

Just pick Hobgoblin, or do the Lizard/Kraven thing....

As for the third, Topher was a big mistake. And Harry wasn't the Hobgoblin. Just another Green Goblin....

Judge Death - April 23, 2009 11:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 23 2009, 11:54 PM)
Yeah, I've decided that my script is too long and disorganized.

Just pick Hobgoblin, or do the Lizard/Kraven thing....

As for the third, Topher was a big mistake. And Harry wasn't the Hobgoblin. Just another Green Goblin....

Topher played the Venom that they gave him well. If they had done up an accurate comic portail, they would have hired some buff guy who couldn't act worth the crap

Marvel Man - April 24, 2009 12:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 23 2009, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 23 2009, 11:54 PM)
Yeah, I've decided that my script is too long and disorganized.

Just pick Hobgoblin, or do the Lizard/Kraven thing....

As for the third, Topher was a big mistake. And Harry wasn't the Hobgoblin. Just another Green Goblin....

Topher played the Venom that they gave him well. If they had done up an accurate comic portail, they would have hired some buff guy who couldn't act worth the crap

Topher Grace?

That 70's Show's wimp?

He was a horrible Venom. I mean, what happened to the Lethal protector?
Where is his sense of nobility?

Venom is an anti-hero. At least, Brock was....

MarvelFan15 - April 24, 2009 12:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 24 2009, 12:03 AM)
QUOTE (Judge Death @ Apr 23 2009, 11:56 PM)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 23 2009, 11:54 PM)
Yeah, I've decided that my script is too long and disorganized.

Just pick Hobgoblin, or do the Lizard/Kraven thing....

As for the third, Topher was a big mistake. And Harry wasn't the Hobgoblin. Just another Green Goblin....

Topher played the Venom that they gave him well. If they had done up an accurate comic portail, they would have hired some buff guy who couldn't act worth the crap

Topher Grace?

That 70's Show's wimp?

He was a horrible Venom. I mean, what happened to the Lethal protector?
Where is his sense of nobility?

Venom is an anti-hero. At least, Brock was....

Not in his first appearence...he was always trying to kill Spidey..

...But, I guess this is why he's getting his own movie now.

Pseudonym - April 24, 2009 12:26 AM (GMT)
Amazing Taglines:

Who should appear in Spiderman 4?
Vulture
-This movie will suck you right out of your seats
Kraven
-Be Very Very Quiet, He's hunting Spiders (Wack, I know)
Electro
-Shocking, Electrifying
Lizard
-Can't think of one.
Morbius
-who the F&%! is Morbius?
Scorpion
-No, not the one from mortal kombat

Ok, so maybe not that amazing.

Judge Death - April 24, 2009 01:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Apr 24 2009, 12:26 AM)
Amazing Taglines:

Who should appear in Spiderman 4?
Vulture
-This movie will suck you right out of your seats eh, if there were someone else with him, and that movie brought the SS...
Kraven
-Be Very Very Quiet, He's hunting Spiders (Whack, I know) okay
Electro
-Shocking, Electrifying It would be awesome
Lizard
-Can't think of one. Sssslither on in
Morbius
-who the F&%! is Morbius? Michael Morbius, the living vampire
Scorpion
-No, not the one from mortal kombat Hehe

Ok, so maybe not that amazing.

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