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Title: They Killed Batman
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videogameman - March 30, 2009 11:40 PM (GMT)
This is from a site called The Screamsheet. It fits with what i think of the event.

Iíll give one warning and one warning only: if you are currently reading DC Comicsí Final Crisis or any Batman-related stories for 2008/early 2009, donít read this rant unless youíre willing to have me ruin the ending. Go ahead and quit now while you have the chance.

That said, Iíll start my bitching now.

Final Crisis is DC Comicsí big crossover event for this year. Every year, DC and Marvel have some huge earth-shattering event rampage through their stories, eschewing good characterization and storytelling in order to make a quick buck off of gullible readers and completists. These stories arenít complete unless a character gets killed off or otherwise dramatically altered. In Final Crisis #6, that character is Batman.

Yep, Batman is dead. Donít panic, though. Itís just a gimmick. Heíll be back once people get sick of Penis Grayson trying to fill the Dark Knightís shoes and sales start to drop. At worst, heíll be back by the time the next movie is released so DC can properly cash in on the franchise. DC has been down this road before, having killed off Superman, the Green Lantern, the Green Arrow, the Blue Beetle, and the Flash over the last generation. Superman came back within a year or so, the Green Arrow came back a few years ago, the Green Lantern returned to life in time to face off against Yellow, Blue, and Red Lanterns (but thatís a rant for another time), the Blue Beetle lasted maybe a year and a half in the grave, and the Flash came back to life just in time to see Batman die. Basically, the editor of DC Comics saw how Marvelís sales jumped when they killed off Captain America recently and figured he could cash in by knocking off one of the most popular and iconic characters in all of comics. The problem is not so much that Batman is dead, however. The problem is the way the creative team decided to send him off.

I wonít give a synopsis of Final Crisis because the story is even more insipid than most comic book crossovers. However, I will focus on Batmanís last moments. Essentially, the Caped Crusader comes into the story fresh off of a major character arc in his own book called Batman RIP (which he actually survived, just in time to get killed off here). As the plot of Final Crisis revolves around gods and other celestial-level powers, Batman ends up finding a ďgod-killing bullet.Ē (Cue last yearís American Dad Christmas specialÖ"Why do we even have Heaven guns?!Ē) Batman loads the god-killing bullet into a gun and then shoots the villain Darkseid with it, killing him. At the same time that Darkseid gets shot, he blasts Batman with his Omega Sanction, which kills Bruce Wayneís body while sending his soul to a horrible alternate reality (thus leaving the door open for Batmanís eventual return).

For some reason, readers are up in arms about Batman dying, even though itís painfully obvious that heíll be back. What bothers me about the story is the fact that Batman picks up a gun and kills somebody with it. The only constants in Batmanís history since he was revamped for the Silver Age has been that he doesnít use guns and he never kills. Itís the only thing that keeps him on the side of the law rather than having him cross over to become as crazy and dangerous as the villains he fights. The choice to have Batman kill even a villain as evil as Darkseid does more damage to the character than any physical death ever could.

The argument behind Batmanís actions is that Darkseid is an evil world-destroying force and the stakes of Final Crisis are so high that all of reality might be destroyed. Thus, argues the creative team, Batman had to break his cardinal rule. Except that Batman has fought Darkseid dozens of times, and this is at least the third time in as many years that all of reality has been threatened. Basically, the folks at DC Comics are so desperate to get some quick sales off a cheap gimmick that theyíre willing to throw away the one piece of moral integrity that Batman has had as a character for the last half century.

Having Batman shoot and kill someone is akin to having Spider-Man donkey punch his Aunt May. Itís taking a character that has always walked a fine line between right and wrong and having him become the judge, jury, and executioner of villains. Itís taking what is unique and interesting about Batman and throwing it in the trash. Barring a complete revamp that leaves Final Crisis as nothing but a bad dream, Batman is always a killer now. Even when Darkseid inevitably returns and Bruce Wayne is running around Gotham City again, that piece of continuity remains. Batman just committed premeditated murder.

If DC really wanted to kill Batman off, they could just as easily given him a heroic demise. They could have done it back in the Batman RIP storyline, which would have made a lot more sense. They could have done just about anything, but instead they chose to leave with the image of Batman calmly gunning a villain down. Even Frank Miller, who loves nothing more than to strip away any semblance of human decency from the characters he writes, realized how essential it is to the character to have a Batman that doesnít kill.

So Batman is dead for the time being, but heíll be back shortly. Unfortunately, one of the key elements that made him the character he is today has been tossed aside like garbage, killing the Dark Knight more effectively than any actual death would accomplish.



granobulax - March 30, 2009 11:46 PM (GMT)
Penis Grayson... :lol:

MarvelFan15 - March 31, 2009 02:55 AM (GMT)
No more spamming, please.

Marvel Man - March 31, 2009 04:39 AM (GMT)
Amen.

I said it when they first did the Crisis.

I repeated it later, during the "Infinite Crisis".

Now, this, "Final Crisis".

It makes me sick, to think that one of DC's characters that don't stink (the others being Doomsday, Nightwing, and Hal Jordan), just got ruined.

Still, it's DC. It's what they do...

SilverSurfer092 - March 31, 2009 05:07 AM (GMT)
You all suck. Read more comics. The "Crisis" comics are amazing. Batman is not dead, he is now the second man alive, as clearly shown at the end of Final Crisis 6/7. Penis Grayson is an amazing character. Do not make a pun of his name. Once again, you all suck. Also, what makes you people think that Darkseid can be killed with a gun? You all fail hardcore. Goodbye.

Darkender - March 31, 2009 07:27 AM (GMT)
:lol: DC is retarded if this is true. I heard they killed Batman, but a "God Killing Bullet"? Him killing Darksied? I wouldn't see that happenning. I really don't like the way they handled Batman like that. They could have found a much better way to kill him while keeping him the same character. Though, they still got what they needed...Attention.

SilverSurfer092 - March 31, 2009 02:36 PM (GMT)
Like I said, BATMAN IS NOT DEAD.

Darkender - March 31, 2009 07:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Mar 31 2009, 09:36 AM)
Like I said, BATMAN IS NOT DEAD.

I know he got teleported back in time and whatever, but the fact remains they changed Batman as a character with this stunt.

granobulax - April 1, 2009 05:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Mar 31 2009, 02:36 PM)
Like I said, BATMAN IS NOT DEAD.

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GruntKilla06 - April 1, 2009 09:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (MarvelFan15 @ Mar 31 2009, 02:55 AM)
No more spamming, please.

You started it... :Darkrender: Anyway I haven't it read yet. And as for what MM said, I liked the other Crisis'. And if I here you say "that's DC for ya" one more time... :angry: ((Samuri}}

videogameman - April 1, 2009 12:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GruntKilla06 @ Apr 1 2009, 09:30 AM)
You started it... :Darkrender: Anyway I haven't read yet. And as for what MM said, I liked the other Crisis'. And if I here you say "that's DC for ya" one more time... :angry: ((Samuri}}

That's DC for ya. :P

GruntKilla06 - April 2, 2009 02:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (videogameman @ Apr 1 2009, 12:50 PM)
That's DC for ya. :P

Why I oughtta... ((Samuri}}

Marvel Man - April 2, 2009 03:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (videogameman @ Apr 1 2009, 12:50 PM)
That's DC for ya. :P

:lol:

Agreed. Go Marvel. B)

GruntKilla06 - April 2, 2009 07:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Apr 2 2009, 03:11 AM)
:lol:

Agreed. Go Marvel. B)

:Darkrender: No surprise there...

GruntKilla06 - April 8, 2009 05:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Mar 31 2009, 05:07 AM)
You all suck. Read more comics. The "Crisis" comics are amazing. Batman is not dead, he is now the second man alive, as clearly shown at the end of Final Crisis 6/7. Penis Grayson is an amazing character. Do not make a pun of his name. Once again, you all suck. Also, what makes you people think that Darkseid can be killed with a gun? You all fail hardcore. Goodbye.

Amen. Except for the ALL fail part. ;)

videogameman - April 8, 2009 01:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Mar 31 2009, 05:07 AM)
You all suck. Read more comics. The "Crisis" comics are amazing. Batman is not dead, he is now the second man alive, as clearly shown at the end of Final Crisis 6/7. Penis Grayson is an amazing character. Do not make a pun of his name. Once again, you all suck. Also, what makes you people think that Darkseid can be killed with a gun? You all fail hardcore. Goodbye.

One, It was the language filter that did it. Secondly, it doesn't matter if Batman is still alive or not, same with Darksied. Batman still went in with the intention of killing Darkseid with no moral dilemnna. They disregarded one of, if not the, most important elements of Batman. THAT was the point of thus rant. Oh, and it was a GOD-KILLING BULLET!

SilverSurfer092 - April 8, 2009 07:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (videogameman @ Apr 8 2009, 02:42 PM)
One, It was the language filter that did it. Secondly, it doesn't matter if Batman is still alive or not, same with Darksied. Batman still went in with the intention of killing Darkseid with no moral dilemnna. They disregarded one of, if not the, most important elements of Batman. THAT was the point of thus rant. Oh, and it was a GOD-KILLING BULLET!

Upon further review, you are right about the word filters. I apologize for that.

Granobulax - April 8, 2009 07:10 PM (GMT)
:blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:

...did Surfer just... apologize? :o

Solomon - April 8, 2009 07:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 8 2009, 07:08 PM)
Upon further review, you are right about the word filters. I apologize for that.

Don't worry about it. ^_^

videogameman - April 8, 2009 09:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SilverSurfer092 @ Apr 8 2009, 07:08 PM)
Upon further review, you are right about the word filters. I apologize for that.

Thank you. And while I'm sure Grano's joking, let the newbies know that Surfer is a rational guy and he will say sorry if he's wrong. He won't say sorry for insulting you, nor will he say sorry for banning you. so still FEAR HIM!

IonKidMax - April 23, 2009 11:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Apr 1 2009, 05:24 AM)
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LMAO!!! :lol:




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