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Title: Repition, when used well, should be an enhancer
Description: Yeah, for you Solomon


Pseudonym - February 24, 2009 11:46 PM (GMT)
I think it should.

Solomon - February 24, 2009 11:49 PM (GMT)
Get over your low grade.

Get over it.

Just get over the fact that your grade was low.

Get over it.

Repition does nothing to enhance a piece of writing, so get over it.

Get over it.

Solomon - February 24, 2009 11:51 PM (GMT)
If your really that upset about it, and can't take criticism. I'll give you a half a point.

Jailer411 - February 24, 2009 11:57 PM (GMT)
It could be, I think.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 12:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 24 2009, 11:57 PM)
It could be, I think.

Why?

Pseudonym - February 25, 2009 12:28 AM (GMT)
It's not that I'm upset, It's just repitition has been greatly used to hammer home a point.

The low-grade wasn't all that traumatizing.

Lastly, my pro repitition argument end with

"I have a dream"

videogameman - February 25, 2009 01:06 AM (GMT)
It gets a point across or shows insanity in a charecter. If repition is like "He jumped off the building. He then jumped at his opponet and jumped on his head", then yeah, it should be mocked. But used right, it is a great writing tool.

Marvel Man - February 25, 2009 01:33 AM (GMT)
Well, I myself think if used right, it can add a good effect to any piece.

Still, I haven't seen how you used it...

Solomon - February 25, 2009 01:52 AM (GMT)
The only way that repition actually works is when it is used within dialogue. In other words only works in speeches, plays, and that sort of thing. Otherwise its childish unless paired with things that actually enhance your writing. Which is why it doesn't count as an enhancer because when it is used it does nothing to make your writing any better. It the stuff around the repitition that gets taken note of not the repition itself.

Your grade isn't based on that you had them. Its based on how well you used them. Even if I did consider repetition to be a enhancer I still would have only given you a 3 tops. Repition is boing, dull, and monotnous.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:14 AM (GMT)
Repetition can be an enhancer in the right hands.

Jailer411 - February 25, 2009 02:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 24 2009, 08:14 PM)
Repetition can be an enhancer in the right hands.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say, but I failed at trying to say it.

granobulax - February 25, 2009 02:19 AM (GMT)
Repitition is a good enhancer to those who know how to use it effectively. Not many people can pull it off though. Many people try and cause it to be a detractor to their work.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 25 2009, 02:14 AM)
Repetition can be an enhancer in the right hands.

How? Every example where someone uses repitition it is used within great writing. That is why Dr. King's speech was so revered because it showed the hardships of his race, and its struggle through symbolism in a passionate way, and he spoke for the opressed not because he kept saying "I have a dream"

Pseudonym - February 25, 2009 02:20 AM (GMT)
The poll disagrees with you Solomon. Besides-Repitition can be used as an interesting way to accentuate a point. Look.

Johnathan walked down the street and the green tress shook their leaves overhead.

At the end of the story, after a family member has died

Johnathan walked down the strees, orange and yellow leaves littered the way.

I think it is, harrumph

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:24 AM (GMT)
Tell me why do you think I care about the poll?

Secondly your example is my point using that doesnt enhance a piece of writing its the things around it not the repitition itself.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:25 AM (GMT)
What your using there is irony not repitition. Irony is an enhancer. Repitition is not.

Jailer411 - February 25, 2009 02:26 AM (GMT)
I think we all learned a lesson today, Solomon learned that this is annoying to him, and Pseudonym learned that polls are useless,but cant we just join arms together and sing?

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 25 2009, 02:26 AM)
I think we all learned a lesson today, Solomon learned that this is annoying to him, and Pseudonym learned that polls are useless,but cant we just join arms together and sing?

No.


Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:20 AM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 25 2009, 02:14 AM)
Repetition can be an enhancer in the right hands.

How? Every example where someone uses repitition it is used within great writing. That is why Dr. King's speech was so revered because it showed the hardships of his race, and its struggle through symbolism in a passionate way, and he spoke for the opressed not because he kept saying "I have a dream"

He kept on saying I have dream and telling of his dreams. That can be looked upon as repetition. In the right hands it can be used very well.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:27 AM)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 25 2009, 02:26 AM)
I think we all learned a lesson today, Solomon learned that this is annoying to him, and Pseudonym learned that polls are useless,but cant we just join arms together and sing?

No.

Of course not.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:31 AM (GMT)
Darkender do you seriously think his speech would be held so highly if it was:

I have a dream. That people will be friends. I have a dream that black kids will like white kids I have a dream.

Like I said before the repitition itself didn't enhance the speech it was the stuff around, the symbolism, the theme, and the voice.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:31 AM)
Darkender do you seriously think is speech would be held so highly if it was:

I have a dream. That people will be friends. I have a dream that black kids will like white kids I have a dream.

Like I said before the repitition itself didn't enhance the speech it was the stuff around, the symbolism, the theme, and the voice.

Tell me how many times he said I have a dream...

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.


Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:36 AM (GMT)
Do I need to shoot you?

I know he used repitition. I'm not stupid. That's not what made it a great speech.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:36 AM)
Do I need to shoot you?

I know he used repitition. I'm not stupid. That's not what made it a great speech.

It is one of the reasons it was a great speech, and one of the reasons that that part is remembered often over the other parts of his speech.

Pseudonym - February 25, 2009 02:39 AM (GMT)
But that added to the speech.

Enhanced it.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:40 AM (GMT)
Its remembered because of the ideas within the speech not the repition.

granobulax - February 25, 2009 02:41 AM (GMT)
In my personal opinion, "I have a dream" was an enhancer to that speach because it helped to drive home his point. Without those famous words, the speach would have been just like any other.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 25 2009, 02:39 AM)
But that added to the speech.

Enhanced it.

No it didn't because if you took it away, and variedthe language it would not lessen the speech at all.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:40 AM)
Its remembered because of the ideas within the speech not the repition.

He didn't have to keep on saying "I have a dream". Him saying that enhanced his whole speech.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Feb 25 2009, 02:41 AM)
In my personal opinion, "I have a dream" was an enhancer to that speach because it helped to drive home his point. Without those famous words, the speach would have been just like any other.

Same here.

Solomon- Without the repetition of I have a dream. Thats speech would not have been as good.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 25 2009, 02:42 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:40 AM)
Its remembered because of the ideas within the speech not the repition.

He didn't have to keep on saying "I have a dream". Him saying that enhanced his whole speech.

No its the stuff within the "I have a dreams" that made the speech so great.

Not the use of "I have a dream"

granobulax - February 25, 2009 02:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 25 2009, 02:39 AM)
But that added to the speech.

Enhanced it.

No it didn't because if you took it away, and variedthe language it would not lessen the speech at all.

You're being a tad too critical. In the frame of the "I have a dream" speach, repitition enhanced his view points to his audience.

In the frame of whether or not you should use it as an enhancer in your grading system, absolutely not. Nobody, and I do mean nobody on this site is a good enough writer to be cabable of pulling off repitition as an enhancer therefore making it a mute topic.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 25 2009, 02:42 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:40 AM)
Its remembered because of the ideas within the speech not the repition.

He didn't have to keep on saying "I have a dream". Him saying that enhanced his whole speech.

No its the stuff within the "I have a dreams" that made the speech so great.

Not the use of "I have a dream"

The stuff within in the speech was great to, but he used the repetition "I have a dream" as an enhancer.

Pseudonym - February 25, 2009 02:46 AM (GMT)
I thought I did, but thanks Grano.

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Feb 25 2009, 02:45 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 25 2009, 02:39 AM)
But that added to the speech.

Enhanced it.

No it didn't because if you took it away, and variedthe language it would not lessen the speech at all.

You're being a tad too critical. In the frame of the "I have a dream" speach, repitition enhanced his view points to his audience.

In the frame of whether or not you should use it as an enhancer in your grading system, absolutely not. Nobody, and I do mean nobody on this site is a good enough writer to be cabable of pulling off repitition as an enhancer therefore making it a mute topic.

Nevermind.

granobulax - February 25, 2009 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 25 2009, 02:46 AM)
I thought I did, but thanks Grano.

:huh: You thought you did what?

Darkender - February 25, 2009 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 25 2009, 02:46 AM)
I thought I did, but thanks Grano.

You didn't. You're not that great of a writer.

granobulax - February 25, 2009 02:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 25 2009, 02:47 AM)
QUOTE (granobulax @ Feb 25 2009, 02:45 AM)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:41 AM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 25 2009, 02:39 AM)
But that added to the speech.

Enhanced it.

No it didn't because if you took it away, and variedthe language it would not lessen the speech at all.

You're being a tad too critical. In the frame of the "I have a dream" speach, repitition enhanced his view points to his audience.

In the frame of whether or not you should use it as an enhancer in your grading system, absolutely not. Nobody, and I do mean nobody on this site is a good enough writer to be cabable of pulling off repitition as an enhancer therefore making it a mute topic.

Nevermind.

And the poll question is "Should repitition be considered an enhancer in Solomon's grading system"

No, it should not.

Solomon - February 25, 2009 02:48 AM (GMT)
In regards with paragraph 1: I disagree, but you probably already figured that out.

In regards to paragraph 2: Even though I disagree with you about repitition enhancing a piece of work...deal.

granobulax - February 25, 2009 02:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solomon @ Feb 25 2009, 02:48 AM)
In regards with paragraph 1: I disagree, but you probably already figured that out.

In regards to paragraph 2: Even though I disagree with you about repitition enhancing a piece of work...deal.

Was that for my post?




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