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hellbentnow - February 22, 2009 03:51 PM (GMT)
WAMPUM, Pa. — An 11-year-old boy shot his father’s pregnant girlfriend in the back of the head while she was lying in bed in their western Pennsylvania farmhouse, then got on the school bus and went to school, authorities said Saturday.

Jordan Brown was charged Saturday as an adult in the shooting death of Kenzie Marie Houk, who was 8 months pregnant, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said at a news conference.

Brown’s attorney Dennis Elisco said he met with the boy in prison Saturday and believes the boy did not kill Houk.

At about 11 a.m. on Friday, the fifth grader was picked up from school by Pennsylvania State Police, who found 26-year-old Kenzie Marie Houk’s body after her 4-year-old daughter told tree cutters working on the property she thought her mother was dead, Bongivengo said.

The boy then told police there was a suspicious black truck on the property that morning — possibly the man who feeds the cows — sending investigators to follow a false lead for about five hours, Bongivengo said.

Inconsistencies in Brown’s description of the vehicle led police to re-interview the victim’s 7-year-old daughter, who implicated the boy in the killing, Bongivengo said.

“She didn’t actually eyewitness the shooting. She saw him with what she believed to be a shotgun and heard a loud bang,” Bongivengo said. The gun was found in a “location we believe to be in the defendant’s bedroom. It was a youth model ... shotgun.”

“The 7-year-old was fearful and then, when she began talking, it became clear she was being consistent with what investigators had found,” Bongivengo said.

By 3:30 a.m. Saturday, Brown had been charged as an adult with Houk’s killing. Brown was arraigned and remains in Lawrence County Jail. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Thursday.

Elisco, Brown’s attorney, said he met Saturday with the boy’s father, Christopher Brown, and Bongivengo. He plans to file a motion Monday to have the boy released on bail and move the case to juvenile court.

Elisco and police said they had no clear motive for the shooting. Elisco said the boy’s father is “a mess. He’s in a state of actual shock and disbelief.” There was no prior indication the boy had a problem with Houk, he added.

Later, Elisco said he met with Jordan in the county jail. He said he is waiting to see physical evidence that will tie Jordan Brown to the killing. At the moment, he said, the evidence points to the gunshot wound being “consistent” with the boy’s hunting gun, but he wants to see stronger proof it was Jordan’s.

“He’s a typical 11-year-old kid and he looks 11 ... he was very happy to see his father and he wants to go home. I don’t think he knows what’s going on,” Elisco said.

“I walked out of there thinking he was innocent. I believe Jordan did not do this and I’m looking forward to see the physical evidence to see if it matches with what I think happened.”

Bongivengo would not say whether the boy had confessed to the shooting.

Houk was shot from behind and less than a foot away as she lay on her side, Lawrence County Coroner Russell Noga said.

The fetus, which was about 34 or 35 weeks old, died within minutes due to a lack of oxygen. The fetus was a 19.5 inch, 7.4 pound boy, he said.

The shotgun used in the killing is designed for children and has a shorter arm.

Such weapons do not have to be registered, Bongivengo said, adding the weapon apparently belonged to Brown.

“It’s typical of families that hunt and do those activities together,” Bongivengo said. “It’s really a hunting shotgun.”

Houk was shot around 8 a.m. and probably died almost immediately, Noga said.

Police were not called until about 9 a.m. because Houk’s 4-year-old daughter said she first watched cartoons and ate breakfast before going into her mother’s room and finding her dead, Bongivengo said. Later, she told police she had not heard the gunshot, only “a muffled sound.”

Houk’s daughters are staying with Houk’s parents, he added. Houk’s father, Jack Houk, did not immediately respond to a call Saturday by The Associated Press. Houk lives in New Castle, a town about 10 miles from Wampum.

The small rural community of Wampum is about 45 miles from Pittsburgh. Houk rented the farmhouse less than a year ago, neighbors said, joining the neighborhood dotted with fields of cows and abandoned and burned-out trailers. The half-mile drive leading to the property was cordoned off with police tape early Saturday. A few police vehicles remained on the property, alongside farm equipment and an open barn filled with hay.

Cameron Tucker, 39, a neighbor who lived across the street from Houk, said the pregnant mother had been renting the home for no more than a year. Tucker’s wife, Tara, sometimes drove Houk’s 4-year-old daughter to the bus stop because she went to preschool with the Tuckers’ 5-year-old. “She was very protective of her kids,” he said of Houk, adding she seemed excited about her pregnancy.

Early Saturday, neighbors milled about outside their homes, watching the action around the Houk residence.

“The whole situation is heinous,” Bongivengo said. “This is something that you wouldn’t even think of in your worst nightmare, that you would have to charge an 11-year-old with the homicide of a 26-year-old.”

Pseudonym - February 22, 2009 03:57 PM (GMT)
So

Bassetman - February 22, 2009 04:00 PM (GMT)
You're supposed to discuss.

..Amateurs.

hellbentnow - February 22, 2009 04:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 22 2009, 11:57 AM)
So

so???

Darkender - February 22, 2009 04:12 PM (GMT)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

SilverSurfer092 - February 22, 2009 04:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 04:12 PM)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

Murderers are always tried as adults.

hellbentnow - February 22, 2009 04:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 12:12 PM)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

it was premeditated, he tried to mislead the police and his timing was perfect the kids asleep or not home, father at work an gf sleepin

Solomon - February 22, 2009 04:15 PM (GMT)
Terrible, just terrible.

Jailer411 - February 22, 2009 04:15 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (hellbentnow @ Feb 22 2009, 10:13 AM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 12:12 PM)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

it was premeditated, he tried to mislead the police.

If he was smart enough to do that, he obviously knew what he was doing. He should be tried as an adult.

Darkender - February 22, 2009 04:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (hellbentnow @ Feb 22 2009, 04:13 PM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 12:12 PM)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

it was premeditated, he tried to mislead the police and his timing was perfect the kids asleep or not home, father at work an gf sleepin

I think they should make an exception. An eleven year old in real prison. He wouldn't last very long now would he?

Jailer411 - February 22, 2009 04:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE (hellbentnow @ Feb 22 2009, 04:13 PM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 12:12 PM)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

it was premeditated, he tried to mislead the police and his timing was perfect the kids asleep or not home, father at work an gf sleepin

I think they should make an exception. An eleven year old in real prison. He wouldn't last very long now would he?

Seriously Darkender? They're not putting a minor in a adult jail.

Darkender - February 22, 2009 04:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 22 2009, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 10:16 AM)
QUOTE (hellbentnow @ Feb 22 2009, 04:13 PM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 12:12 PM)
Wow, I think he's guilty, but I don't think they should convict him as an adult. They should place him in Juvy until he's old enough to be placed in jail.

it was premeditated, he tried to mislead the police and his timing was perfect the kids asleep or not home, father at work an gf sleepin

I think they should make an exception. An eleven year old in real prison. He wouldn't last very long now would he?

Seriously Darkender? They're not putting a minor in a adult jail.

:lol: Then where are they putting him! In Juvy right!?

Jailer411 - February 22, 2009 04:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 10:19 AM)

:lol: Then where are they putting him! In Juvy right!?

Yes, and straight to jail once he can be tried as an adult.

Darkender - February 22, 2009 04:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 22 2009, 04:25 PM)
QUOTE (Darkender @ Feb 22 2009, 10:19 AM)

:lol: Then where are they putting him! In Juvy right!?

Yes, and straight to jail once he can be tried as an adult.

Thats what I said at first.

Leo Sanders - February 22, 2009 06:43 PM (GMT)
I say he needs to skip Juvy and go on up to the big leauge's.

Then he needs to be placed in the same cell with a pervert.

The Ripper - February 22, 2009 06:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Leo Sanders @ Feb 22 2009, 11:43 AM)
I say he needs to skip Juvy and go on up to the big leauge's.

Then he needs to be placed in the same cell with a pervert.

Jeez...that's harsh. He's 11 years old, for God's sake! First, we temporarily hold him in juvenile hall. Then try him as an adult. If he is unfit for prison, and if the boy has mental illness, put him in a juvenile ward, or psychiatric hospital for children/adolescents. But if he is fit for prison, put him in a jail cell.

Good solution?

Leo Sanders - February 22, 2009 06:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Ripper @ Feb 22 2009, 06:57 PM)
QUOTE (Leo Sanders @ Feb 22 2009, 11:43 AM)
I say he needs to skip Juvy and go on up to the big leauge's.

Then he needs to be placed in the same cell with a pervert.

Jeez...that's harsh. He's 11 years old, for God's sake! First, we temporarily hold him in juvenile hall. Then try him as an adult. If he is unfit for prison, and if the boy has mental illness, put him in a juvenile ward, or psychiatric hospital for children/adolescents. But if he is fit for prison, put him in a jail cell.

Good solution?

So?

Ok I could understand if he has mental issues.

If he doesn't though.

Then it is his fault.

SilverSurfer092 - February 22, 2009 08:17 PM (GMT)
The way I see it this. It's all a moot point. I highly doubt that the legal system is going to listen to a few people who do nothing more than sit on a computer and an unpopular site. He'll be tried as an adult, as has every other minor that KILLED someone, and then be sent to prison as soon as possible. Once there, it's every man for himself.

Pseudonym - February 22, 2009 08:24 PM (GMT)
That kid is smart as a mofo. He did well but he got caught.

The female dog probably deserved it. The Kid got caught.

Parents: Stop giving your kids guns dammit

Darkender - February 22, 2009 08:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 22 2009, 08:24 PM)
That kid is smart as a mofo. He did well but he got caught.

The female dog probably deserved it. The Kid got caught.

Parents: Stop giving your kids guns dammit

Not smart enough.

Pseudonym - February 22, 2009 08:31 PM (GMT)
Why does this website censor b!tch

either way, t'was the fault of the people with SHOTGUNS in their house.

IN my house, I will stock a Zanbato, A katana, a stun gun, and possibly a 50lbs staff

Marvel Man - February 22, 2009 08:40 PM (GMT)
Put him in Juvy, then...

Send him to Guantànamo Bay.

SilverSurfer092 - February 22, 2009 08:41 PM (GMT)
I'll stock bazookas.

Darkender - February 22, 2009 08:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 22 2009, 08:31 PM)
Why does this website censor b!tch

either way, t'was the fault of the people with SHOTGUNS in their house.

IN my house, I will stock a Zanbato, A katana, a stun gun, and possibly a 50lbs staff

:Darkrender:
Because some people are really sensitive.

MarvelFan15 - February 22, 2009 08:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Marvel Man @ Feb 22 2009, 08:40 PM)
Put him in Juvy, then...

Send him to Guantànamo Bay.

Can't do that now because of Obama.

But I hope this kid gets what he deserves. What he did is just utterly horrible. Once he hits the minimum age of adulthood (as determined by the state) they should give him the death penalty...unless he's insane. Then they should send him to an insane asylum, and if he becomes sane again...Well, you get my pont. This kid needs punishment.

Pseudonym - February 22, 2009 09:13 PM (GMT)

The death penalty? REally?

Jailer411 - February 22, 2009 09:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 22 2009, 03:13 PM)
The death penalty? REally?

Yes, he knew what he was doing, and killed a women and her child.

Pseudonym - February 22, 2009 09:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 22 2009, 09:14 PM)
QUOTE (Pseudonym @ Feb 22 2009, 03:13 PM)
The death penalty? REally?

Yes, he knew what he was doing, and killed a women and her child.

So what, to kill him would be comitting the same attrocity.

We don't know why he did it.
If she was abusive, he needs 5 years in jail tops. Learning the real meaning of abuse.
If he just didn't like her, he might need 7 with counseling.

If anyone else dies by his hand, Life in Prison

Marvel Man - February 22, 2009 09:26 PM (GMT)
I'm against the Death penalty myself, it's too easy.

He should get life. In prison. No parole.
That's a good 50 years to think about what and how he ruined his life.

For extra punishment, he should be forced to read DC comics....
Yeah, I know that's harsh, but he deserves to watch Superboy Prime punch reality over and over.

SilverSurfer092 - February 23, 2009 03:59 AM (GMT)
The Death Penalty? You people are ridiculous. He doesn't deserve the death penalty. No one does. Sure, keeping them in prison wastes millions of taxpaying dollars, but I'd rather fund that then kill him. I don't care who it is. Hitler, Stalin, or Genghis Khan, I'll pay to keep them alive.

treacherous - February 23, 2009 02:55 PM (GMT)
Anybody seen ND4. Seriously though, I'd like to get his perspective on this. He's the same age. Let's get his opinion.

IonKidMax - February 23, 2009 05:19 PM (GMT)
Wasn't ND4 banned from this site by his Parents? :huh:

treacherous - February 23, 2009 05:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IonKidMax @ Feb 23 2009, 05:19 PM)
Wasn't ND4 banned from this site by his Parents? :huh:

You've been away for a while haven't you?

IonKidMax - February 24, 2009 04:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (treacherous @ Feb 23 2009, 05:20 PM)
QUOTE (IonKidMax @ Feb 23 2009, 05:19 PM)
Wasn't ND4 banned from this site by his Parents? :huh:

You've been away for a while haven't you?

...Yeah 2 weeks are so :mellow:

M Bison - February 24, 2009 04:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IonKidMax @ Feb 24 2009, 04:49 PM)

...Yeah 2 weeks are so :mellow:

No one missed you.

Solomon - February 24, 2009 08:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (M Bison @ Feb 24 2009, 04:58 PM)
QUOTE (IonKidMax @ Feb 24 2009, 04:49 PM)

...Yeah 2 weeks are so :mellow:

No one missed you.

That was so random, and mean at the same time that it was funny.

Pseudonym - February 24, 2009 09:05 PM (GMT)
I really don't think he needs more than a decade away.

Consider how resistant to boredom you were as a child.
Not very.

Ten years-Tops

nicker - February 24, 2009 09:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (treacherous @ Feb 23 2009, 02:55 PM)
Anybody seen ND4. Seriously though, I'd like to get his perspective on this. He's the same age. Let's get his opinion.

I am right here and when I heard 11 year old boy I thought I was in trouble.

Oh and um well this breaks my heart.He killed a lady with a baby.So he killed something that could have had a chance at life.Cold bastard.He derserves all the rapes in jail.Now he will know what it means to not drop the soap. :Darkrender: :Darkrender: puredevilishevil!!!

Jailer411 - February 24, 2009 09:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (nicker @ Feb 24 2009, 03:44 PM)
QUOTE (treacherous @ Feb 23 2009, 02:55 PM)
Anybody seen ND4.  Seriously though, I'd like to get his perspective on this.  He's the same age.  Let's get his opinion.

I am right here and when I heard 11 year old boy I thought I was in trouble.

Oh and um well this breaks my heart.He killed a lady with a baby.So he killed something that could have had a chance at life.Cold bastard.He derserves all the rapes in jail.Now he will know what it means to not drop the soap. :Darkrender: :Darkrender: puredevilishevil!!!

Wait, did you just imply that you know what it is like to drop the soap?

nicker - February 24, 2009 09:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jailer411 @ Feb 24 2009, 09:46 PM)
QUOTE (nicker @ Feb 24 2009, 03:44 PM)
QUOTE (treacherous @ Feb 23 2009, 02:55 PM)
Anybody seen ND4.  Seriously though, I'd like to get his perspective on this.  He's the same age.  Let's get his opinion.

I am right here and when I heard 11 year old boy I thought I was in trouble.

Oh and um well this breaks my heart.He killed a lady with a baby.So he killed something that could have had a chance at life.Cold bastard.He derserves all the rapes in jail.Now he will know what it means to not drop the soap. :Darkrender: :Darkrender: puredevilishevil!!!

Wait, did you just imply that you know what it is like to drop the soap?

Yeah .You drop it and you get well invaded. -_-




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