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The Political Thread, Because people here don't fight enough| kingcobweb |
Posted: Nov 25 2009, 08:14 PM
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 Tits and cooters, Mr. Bond. Tits and cooters.  Group: Spambots Posts: -2,111 Member No.: 382 Joined: 2-April 09  |
but raising taxes isn't what they want to do. in fact, keynesian economics says specifically NOT to raise taxes during economic hard times; you lower them, deficit spend until you're out of it, then raise them during the boom times. no one is proposing raising taxes on anyone but those making over $250k right now, and even with his campaign promises to do so, he hasn't done so yet. |
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| dbuel |
Posted: Nov 25 2009, 08:37 PM
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 I am scrutinizing you Group: Spambots Posts: 5,173 Member No.: 306 Joined: 3-October 08 |
It's amazing to me how on the one hand, you can act like Obama's government takeover utopia doesn't have to involve tax increases, and then on the other hand fight tooth and nail whenever anyone tells you that you don't have to raise taxes to get more revenue. -------------------- Fairness is in the rules, not in the outcome.
If the government gave me, say, a million dollars that it took from someone else, I would do better than if I were left to my own devices. Capitalism REFUTED U d00dz r gäy http://www.magiclampoon.com |
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| kingcobweb |
Posted: Nov 25 2009, 08:46 PM
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Tits and cooters, Mr. Bond. Tits and cooters. Group: Spambots Posts: -2,111 Member No.: 382 Joined: 2-April 09 |
i didn't say raising taxes is bad. i said raising taxes during recession is bad. there's a dif.
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| ewie |
Posted: Nov 25 2009, 10:21 PM
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Welcome to the Republican Party. This post has been edited by ewie on Nov 25 2009, 10:21 PM |
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| ArneH |
Posted: Nov 25 2009, 11:13 PM
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 [galactic anomaly]  Group: Real Members Posts: 296 Member No.: 179 Joined: 13-March 08 |
you ever heard of Kurzarbeit? it's kinda hard to fire a worker if the government is paying you not to fire him -------------------- Millstone puts cards from the brain pan scroll room straight into the dead-book!
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| funkeymonkeyman |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 12:27 AM
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right it's like dbuel fails to understand the basic principle of deficit spending. |
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| kingcobweb |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 01:15 AM
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Tits and cooters, Mr. Bond. Tits and cooters. Group: Spambots Posts: -2,111 Member No.: 382 Joined: 2-April 09 |
that it's only allowed for massive amounts of military spending and to fight wars? |
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| ArneH |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 01:52 AM
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[galactic anomaly] Group: Real Members Posts: 296 Member No.: 179 Joined: 13-March 08 |
wars are deficit neutral (because you can loot the other guy's oil) -------------------- Millstone puts cards from the brain pan scroll room straight into the dead-book!
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| The Jester |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 04:48 AM
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 WOOOOOOO BEER WOOOOOOOOO Group: Spambots Posts: 4,126 Member No.: 69 Joined: 20-December 07 |
and apparently this was a question! -------------------- |
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| Uber_Mexico |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 05:28 AM
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Man, I don't get this. I used to be totally against all deficit spending, but one day arguing here or old misetings or somewhere, it was explained how it actually works in practice and I was like, ah, ok. Actual classes in college eventually backed that up, obv, but still.
I cannot help but think that person was dbuel. Maybe I am wrong, but I really remember dbuel at some point going to bat for deficit spending to build infra and ensure better revenues down the road. I mean, it makes perfect sense. You put your emergency car repairs/medical bills/etc on the credit card and you pay it back when your car isn't broken anymore. Not deficit spending out of a recession is like sitting there insisting on missing work to fix it with a wrench on the side of the road because you can't stand the thought of paying interest to discover. E: and if you look at it that way, most presidents have actually done this. Recession presidents spend like crazy, the president after them balances the budget. Reagan, Bush sr. and Clinton totally worked like a team toward that surplus. This post has been edited by Uber_Mexico on Nov 26 2009, 05:30 AM -------------------- In an era when you can fit many gigabytes onto a device small enough to be swallowed by a cat and even your local bait shop has a website, phone companies still want us to find phone numbers the same way we did 100 years ago: by dragging out a bulky, ten-pound list printed on dead trees.
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| dbuel |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 07:37 AM
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I am scrutinizing you Group: Spambots Posts: 5,173 Member No.: 306 Joined: 3-October 08 |
Look, I like pumpkin pie, but that doesn't mean I'm going to eat three whole ones. -------------------- Fairness is in the rules, not in the outcome.
If the government gave me, say, a million dollars that it took from someone else, I would do better than if I were left to my own devices. Capitalism REFUTED U d00dz r gäy http://www.magiclampoon.com |
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| peppersprayed |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 07:39 AM
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 Mmmm dino burgers  Group: Vanguards Posts: 3,223 Member No.: 15 Joined: 17-December 07 |
you will never win the pie eating contest with that attitude  |
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| peppersprayed |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 07:40 AM
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Mmmm dino burgers Group: Vanguards Posts: 3,223 Member No.: 15 Joined: 17-December 07 |
high nightcow
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| Alfred |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 09:56 AM
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 you are the cat. i am the 50 cent Group: Chat Krew Posts: 3,768 Member No.: 97 Joined: 27-December 07 |
No, he was actually just pretending that was a question. He was actually talking about slearch. -------------------- I'm the man who has the ball, I am the man who can throw it faster than fuck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world. Kiss my ass, suck my dick. Everyone.
-Kenny Powers |
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| Alfred |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 11:54 AM
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you are the cat. i am the 50 cent Group: Chat Krew Posts: 3,768 Member No.: 97 Joined: 27-December 07 |
By the way, I will whore my blog here because I wrote a thing about politics.
http://comedylandfill.wordpress.com/2009/1...administration/ Hopefully you enjoy  -------------------- I'm the man who has the ball, I am the man who can throw it faster than fuck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world. Kiss my ass, suck my dick. Everyone.
-Kenny Powers |
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| Xyre |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 12:08 PM
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 happy holidays, douchebags Group: Spambots Posts: 852 Member No.: 253 Joined: 16-June 08 |
Right, there's nothing wrong with that kind of deficit spending. You just don't want to avoid getting rid of the deficit after the financial hard times are over. America just enjoys spending itself to death too damn much. -------------------- "You got to be careful you don't overdo it, in fact, because azaleas will take their partying to the limit, and after a few days you'll find yourself leaning out your window at three o'clock in the afternoon yelling at them to shut up because their flower orgy is keeping you awake."
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| ArneH |
Posted: Nov 26 2009, 10:56 PM
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[galactic anomaly] Group: Real Members Posts: 296 Member No.: 179 Joined: 13-March 08 |
nice onion copy paste NOT!!! -------------------- Millstone puts cards from the brain pan scroll room straight into the dead-book!
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