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lumoroske - May 2, 2007 04:20 AM (GMT)
Now don't get me wrong, the US is a good country, but I think some of our government's actions are leading us to its fall. My main concern is that we are bending our knee to too many things. Such as allowing languages other than english to be put larger or even have no english at all. Or that we can't put up anything that says Merry Christmas, or Happy Hannukah, etc. Or the whole deal with illegal immigraton. And other things on the unending list. The thing is, we're letting so many people overrule our constitution, tradition, and so on. We can't afford to rush and aid everyone who cries out. Yes this is a horrid opening, but I want to see where this goes first.

Aeorys Kirru - May 2, 2007 04:43 AM (GMT)
1) BUSH IS AN IDIOT

The US might be 'the free country,' but that's partially what's making it one of the most morally decayed.

lumoroske - May 2, 2007 11:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ May 1 2007, 08:43 PM)
1) BUSH IS AN IDIOT

The US might be 'the free country,' but that's partially what's making it one of the most morally decayed.

Absolutely. I've visited a few other countries and we are by the rudest in comparison.

S. Carter - May 3, 2007 12:02 AM (GMT)
And when people tend to speak about problems of certain countries, America almost always is mentioned first.

Maybe not, but that's what it seems like: America has been called rude, fat (no offense to anyone), and demanding, even. There are more, but I don't want to go all out, here.

lumoroske - May 3, 2007 12:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (S. Carter @ May 2 2007, 04:02 PM)
And when people tend to speak about problems of certain countries, America almost always is mentioned first.

Maybe not, but that's what it seems like: America has been called rude, fat (no offense to anyone), and demanding, even. There are more, but I don't want to go all out, here.

A little sad isn't it?

Dez384 - May 3, 2007 01:07 AM (GMT)
I see three main problems:

1. The majority of the people don't do anything and stay silent when the minority speaks up.

2. Some people don't seem to care about the issues but just want to oppose the other party and vote only along party lines.

3. The media portrays the nation itself as evil.

Archie_Chaos - May 3, 2007 11:05 PM (GMT)
We ARE the meanest. Easily. We had a German Exchange student in our class, and everyone started asking him stupid questions about things he didn't know about, slang, of course. >=|

Most people are just too damn lazy. That's one problem. They won't even go one block to vote on the president.

YokaiKnight - May 4, 2007 12:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ May 1 2007, 09:43 PM)
The US might be 'the free country,' but that's partially what's making it one of the most morally decayed.

You hit the nail right on the head there. The main problem (and also the biggest advantage) of the U.S. is that, compared to many other countries, a normal person has the right to do...well, a hell of a lot of things. This can be good, but obviously people can get away with some stupid stuff as well.

As a whole, though? I think we're lucky that our country's issues can be things like what language is on signposts and offending people with "Merry Christmas," as opposed to things like the population dying from famine, disease, war, or even all three.

Not saying that some of the issues don't bother me. If you're offended because it says "Merry Christmas" on my lawn...that's really disappointing. Half of the people in that situation are just in it to make a quick buck from a lawsuit.

swordsmen - May 22, 2007 11:43 PM (GMT)
*swordsmen is a big fan of the comedian carlos mencia*

And like him i think no law should interfere with Freedom Of Speech

Part of what gave us are power is our government,I believe the is one sole problem with democracy,the people who take part in it. Not every one makes good descisions and like any other government there is always a chance of corrupt leaders,but i really like democracy over other governments.And also the problem with the U.s. Isnt really its government right now but its size and power,it is easily brought to its knee by things such as oil that we need.Also becuase I believe the U.S. is considered to be the last Imperial nation(I believe china is the second strongest nation today,i might be wrong) and many other nations either depend or despies us.

That is like a mix of Social Studies class and mind of mencia lol

(oh and just to point it out,i once agian havent read anything above cus i was lazy and probably am going to read it now)

ok i red it and have more to say...


I believe that at this time in America minorities have more power in this country,im not trying to be racist or anything but things such as affirmatiive action go to far sometimes and people getting introuble for things they say*freedom of speech means nothing anymore?* like the one man who called some womens basketball team a bunch of nappy headed ***** and got fired for it,but i believe is sueing cus he couldnt be fired for that reason according to his contract or somthing

FullMetalOsaka - May 23, 2007 10:59 PM (GMT)
I beleive that the problem with this country is that just about only the minority speaks up for itself. Just as a quick example, the media was only showing how much everyone hated Bush last election time and how everyone was saying they were going to move to a different country if he won. It made it seem like everyone hated him, but guess who won the election?

Also, It really bugs me how all of these people are coming from Mexico, and some aren't even bothering to learn English. Instead, schools are telling us to learn Spanish so we can comminucate with them.

Archie_Chaos - May 24, 2007 02:36 AM (GMT)
Actually, Bush lost the popular vote. He barely won the electoral college, and guess which state was the swing vote? Florida. And guess who leads Florida? Another Bush.

BlackLink20 - May 24, 2007 03:02 AM (GMT)
I agree with everyone's statement. I believe the major problem with this nation is that everyone is focused on "self ". No offense to anyone, but it just seems like everyone is more focused themselves than anyone else. Because of this fact, they don't consider the consequences surrounding others. As for the government, I believe that they need to pay more attention to the people's concerns.

gamefreak - May 24, 2007 11:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (swordsmen @ May 22 2007, 06:43 PM)
*swordsmen is a big fan of the comedian carlos mencia*

he steal his material from other comedians ¬_¬



as for the whole U.S thing goes, I think this nation would be a whole lot better if freedom of speech really did work. everyones so afraid of getting their ass sued, they are afraid to speak their mind on issues that might demand it

swordsmen - May 24, 2007 07:51 PM (GMT)
he steals some of it not all of it,and he is hilarious. :P

YokaiKnight - May 25, 2007 12:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (swordsmen @ May 22 2007, 04:43 PM)
I believe that at this time in America minorities have more power in this country,im not trying to be racist or anything but things such as affirmatiive action go to far sometimes and people getting introuble for things they say*freedom of speech means nothing anymore?* like the one man who called some womens basketball team a bunch of nappy headed ***** and got fired for it,but i believe is sueing cus he couldnt be fired for that reason according to his contract or somthing

You have a good point. The Imus firing was bull***, anyway--he said something dumb, sure, and made a generalization, and he should know better as a radio host--but it's not a lose-your-job type mistake.

swordsmen - May 25, 2007 01:41 AM (GMT)
oh and the word nappy is racialy charged... nappy-having hair as if you just got out of bed XD racialy charged my A**

swordsmen - May 25, 2007 01:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ May 3 2007, 07:35 PM)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ May 1 2007, 09:43 PM)
The US might be 'the free country,' but that's partially what's making it one of the most morally decayed.

You hit the nail right on the head there. The main problem (and also the biggest advantage) of the U.S. is that, compared to many other countries, a normal person has the right to do...well, a hell of a lot of things. This can be good, but obviously people can get away with some stupid stuff as well.

As a whole, though? I think we're lucky that our country's issues can be things like what language is on signposts and offending people with "Merry Christmas," as opposed to things like the population dying from famine, disease, war, or even all three.

Not saying that some of the issues don't bother me. If you're offended because it says "Merry Christmas" on my lawn...that's really disappointing. Half of the people in that situation are just in it to make a quick buck from a lawsuit.

i would rather be sued or somthing for saying marry christmass in a school then be shot in some dictatorship country lol.

And honestly if our constitution was a little morse strict and laid out there wouldnt be problems like the one we have today.

*also cant wait for the new show on comedy central*lil'bush* XD

Freedom of speech is the best part about our country,but we are geting to damn worried about being moraly and politicly correct!...(in real life where i dont have to abide by the site rules i speak my mind and dont give a f*** about what others think.)

Exxucus - June 5, 2007 01:16 AM (GMT)
Carlos Mencia= :thumbsup:

Anyways...
I agree with almost everything everyone has said, so when I'm 18...screw America, I'm moving to Canada.

Soren - June 5, 2007 03:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Exxucus @ Jun 4 2007, 06:16 PM)
Carlos Mencia= :thumbsup:

Anyways...
I agree with almost everything everyone has said, so when I'm 18...screw America, I'm moving to Canada.

QFT until canada.

I'm goin to Japan, assuming I'm, single after college. I hate america, seriously <.<

Guardian - June 7, 2007 10:35 PM (GMT)
Morally speaking it is our love of not seperating what is right and wrong that is getting us in trouble (and I mean that on a broad scale). We focus way too much on what we shouldn't be doing instead of what we should be doing. For instance: I can't call Winter Break, Christmas Break without someone saying that it is not "Politicaly Correct". We should be instead trying to decide how to make the teenagers of this generation less apothetic towards government and start voting.


swordsmen - June 8, 2007 12:05 AM (GMT)
<--- *loves freedom of speech*

i love america, though i might move to japan if possible...(becuase of there anime XD )

swordsmen - June 8, 2007 12:08 AM (GMT)
oh and i totally think bill gates should be president lol*he will fix taxes*(joke between me and a friend.

Archie_Chaos - June 8, 2007 12:34 AM (GMT)
Obama for prez. What a beast. Mixed Race/Black, Middle name Hussein, first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and he's so awesome, but he's renegadical.

Guardian - June 9, 2007 01:42 AM (GMT)
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Obama for prez. What a beast. Mixed Race/Black, Middle name Hussein, first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and he's so awesome, but he's renegadical.


Your not going to vote for just because of that are you!? :?

Gennaro - June 9, 2007 01:51 AM (GMT)
Lol. I don't think AC can vote.

Nsider_moron - June 9, 2007 04:26 PM (GMT)
I think th US government is just too self-centered. They get money from oil? "Global Warming is false!". The government is just spouting too much bull.

Guardian - June 9, 2007 06:56 PM (GMT)
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Lol. I don't think AC can vote.


oops. HeHe :lol:

swordsmen - June 10, 2007 02:55 AM (GMT)
there is only one problem with all governments that will never go away,corrupt,and stupid people,noe im not saying mentaly ill im saying anoying stupid people who, well....vote...and sometimes run....

Candyman/Denning - June 10, 2007 01:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Archie_Chaos @ Jun 7 2007, 07:34 PM)
Obama for prez. What a beast. Mixed Race/Black, Middle name Hussein, first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and he's so awesome, but he's renegadical.

Hussein? The man's definitely got my mock-up vote... :wub:

Anyway, as much as I hate America, I'm not going to move out of it. I mean, even though the country does suck majorly, it could be worse, and I think it'd be a lot easier to just keep going on in America as opposed to starting fresh and anew someplace else.

NSider_Moron's right, though; the government does spout a lot of...dumbass bull***, as I like to call it.

High Lord Larry - June 14, 2007 03:32 AM (GMT)
First, to swordsmen; What is comedy these days? Idiots who think they know what they're on about talking about government, the War, anything. If Mencia even knows anything about politics, God help me, I will die of shock. My ramble ends with this; None of those shows are funny. I watch The Daily Show and The Colbert Report; I've seen enough promos. Not funny.

Denning; [sarcastic stereotype]That's the American attitude! Don't leave because it's too much work.[/sarcastic stereotype]

Archie;
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Obama for prez. What a beast. Mixed Race/Black, Middle name Hussein, first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and he's so awesome, but he's renegadical.

For one thing, Obama isn't Black. He's like Indian-Irish, or something(News, couple months back(I know! A headline about this guy's race?! Shocking!)). Anyway, as much as I hate her, Hillary Clinton may be our best potential President. Obama has no experience.

Gaurdian; If someone told me something I said isn't politically correct, I'd be like "screw you."

Guardian - June 14, 2007 08:53 PM (GMT)
@ High Lord Larry:
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High Lord Larry Posted on Jun 13 2007, 10:32 PM  Gaurdian; If someone told me something I said isn't politically correct, I'd be like "screw you."


You've got the right attitude in the sense that your protecting your rights, but in the work place its not that easy. People have to tread lightly around certain subjects that bother people or you could risk getting fired. Sort of like a corporate blackmail

High Lord Larry - June 14, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian @ Jun 14 2007, 03:53 PM)
@ High Lord Harry:
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High Lord Larry Posted on Jun 13 2007, 10:32 PM  Gaurdian; If someone told me something I said isn't politically correct, I'd be like "screw you."


You've got the right attitude in the sense that your protecting your rights, but in the work place its not that easy. People have to tread lightly around certain subjects that bother people or you could risk getting fired. Sort of like a corperate blackmail

I've got the right attitude in the sense that I don't care what people think of me. Yeah. Damn you, Corporate America!

Guardian - June 14, 2007 10:34 PM (GMT)
What I thinks should be done is that a law shoud be passed forbiding companies to fire an employee for what they say.

Also, sorry for getting your name wrong. I did the post by memory and forgot to check for accuracy. :(

High Lord Larry - June 15, 2007 02:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guardian @ Jun 14 2007, 05:34 PM)
What I thinks should be done is that a law shoud be passed forbiding companies to fire an employee for what they say.

Also, sorry for getting your name wrong. I did the post by memory and forgot to check for accuracy. :(

My name wrong? Whatever.

Now, I approved of Imus getting fired. The First Amendment doesn't let you say anything. You can say anything, so long as it doesn't infringe on civil liberties.

People will argue that Imus didn't infringe, but I say, someone who calls people 'nappy-headed hos' shouldn't be on the air anyway.

Archie_Chaos - June 15, 2007 02:38 AM (GMT)
Obama can't be the first black president of the Harvard Law Review if he wasn't black. Trust me, he's black. And this was from Time...and 60 minutes. Reliable enough, if I do say so myself. He's not total-complete black, either. Just black enough.

No experience? Senate. He's young and fresh. The thing is, experience doesn't matter if you are smart like Obama. He knows what is going on. I also like his viewpoints and ways of going about things. In this one debate/question thing where everyone was stressing the war in Iraq, he was talking about healthcare and stuff. What a beast.

High Lord Larry - June 15, 2007 02:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Archie_Chaos @ Jun 14 2007, 09:38 PM)
Obama can't be the first black president of the Harvard Law Review if he wasn't black. Trust me, he's black. And this was from Time...and 60 minutes. Reliable enough, if I do say so myself. He's not total-complete black, either. Just black enough.

No experience? Senate. He's young and fresh. The thing is, experience doesn't matter if you are smart like Obama. He knows what is going on. I also like his viewpoints and ways of going about things. In this one debate/question thing where everyone was stressing the war in Iraq, he was talking about healthcare and stuff. What a beast.

-attempts to check resources, but does not remember what they are-

Dude. Well, my point has been screwed over. All I can say is young and fresh-maybe good for a FE game, but not to run the country. Other than that, he sounds quite beastly.

Lulz. God hates Rudy Guiliani(SP?).

YokaiKnight - June 15, 2007 11:16 PM (GMT)
High Lord Larry, unless you can prove to me he decieved even the United States Senate by convincing them he had a Kenyan father and American mother, that's bull.

I think the whole "US sucks/rocks" thing is way too complicated for many of us to be able to make judgements on...there's all kinds of things everyone's forgetting. If being this ***ty makes us the richest (and we're among the highest in standard of living), most technologically advanced, and in other ways most powerful country in the world, I think I'll have to take this ***tiness. As one example, this discussion could literally get all of us arrested if we were Chinese and speaking about our own country. That doesn't mean we can't improve, though...

High Lord Larry - June 15, 2007 11:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Jun 15 2007, 06:16 PM)
High Lord Larry, unless you can prove to me he decieved even the United States Senate by convincing them he had a Kenyan father and American mother, that's bull.

I think the whole "US sucks/rocks" thing is way too complicated for many of us to be able to make judgements on...there's all kinds of things everyone's forgetting. If being this ***ty makes us the richest (and we're among the highest in standard of living), most technologically advanced, and in other ways most powerful country in the world, I think I'll have to take this ***tiness. As one example, this discussion could literally get all of us arrested if we were Chinese and speaking about our own country. That doesn't mean we can't improve, though...

Remember where I said that everything I said about Obama was screwed? So you're reply to me seems like a fight is being picked.

Amen, dude. In China it probably would. -is not racist, is simply making judgments on short time spent in China-

And hell yea. My friend is staying ina town where the only TV they have is in the village center T_T -would not survive-

YokaiKnight - June 15, 2007 11:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (High Lord Larry @ Jun 15 2007, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Jun 15 2007, 06:16 PM)
High Lord Larry, unless you can prove to me he decieved even the United States Senate by convincing them he had a Kenyan father and American mother, that's bull.

I think the whole "US sucks/rocks" thing is way too complicated for many of us to be able to make judgements on...there's all kinds of things everyone's forgetting. If being this ***ty makes us the richest (and we're among the highest in standard of living), most technologically advanced, and in other ways most powerful country in the world, I think I'll have to take this ***tiness. As one example, this discussion could literally get all of us arrested if we were Chinese and speaking about our own country. That doesn't mean we can't improve, though...

Remember where I said that everything I said about Obama was screwed? So you're reply to me seems like a fight is being picked.

Amen, dude. In China it probably would. -is not racist, is simply making judgments on short time spent in China-

And hell yea. My friend is staying ina town where the only TV they have is in the village center T_T -would not survive-

1) I'm not picking a fight. I don't pick fights. ._.
2) You're not racist if you think the government is tight on censorship...;)

High Lord Larry - June 15, 2007 11:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Jun 15 2007, 06:31 PM)
QUOTE (High Lord Larry @ Jun 15 2007, 04:27 PM)
QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Jun 15 2007, 06:16 PM)
High Lord Larry, unless you can prove to me he decieved even the United States Senate by convincing them he had a Kenyan father and American mother, that's bull.

I think the whole "US sucks/rocks" thing is way too complicated for many of us to be able to make judgements on...there's all kinds of things everyone's forgetting. If being this ***ty makes us the richest (and we're among the highest in standard of living), most technologically advanced, and in other ways most powerful country in the world, I think I'll have to take this ***tiness. As one example, this discussion could literally get all of us arrested if we were Chinese and speaking about our own country. That doesn't mean we can't improve, though...

Remember where I said that everything I said about Obama was screwed? So you're reply to me seems like a fight is being picked.

Amen, dude. In China it probably would. -is not racist, is simply making judgments on short time spent in China-

And hell yea. My friend is staying ina town where the only TV they have is in the village center T_T -would not survive-

1) I'm not picking a fight. I don't pick fights. ._.
2) You're not racist if you think the government is tight on censorship...;)

1. Well, I did say that I'd been wrong. And then you said it was bull.
2. Believe me. I know people who start flaming over that.




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