smiff_angel - March 21, 2011 07:30 PM (GMT)
Hey one and all!
was just wondering what chemical mixture you use to embalm a jaundice case?
I've tried Metasyn, and I've tried my usual mix of either plasdopake, metaflow or introfiant and metaflow, but my deceaseds are not giving me the result I desire.
They seem to embalm well, and look good, all except their colour, which goes from yellow to lime green... :( although they are not deteriorating. I guess something in their system is reacting to my chemicals.
Please advise me as to what I am doing wrong.
kimberlynn - March 22, 2011 10:41 PM (GMT)
"The embalming chemistry of formaldehyde in the preservation of jaundice bodies is a disaster waiting to happen. Almost all the classic tissue preservation reactions of formaldehyde enhances the yellowgreening color changes and does little to effect adequate preservation. The old-fashioned formaldehyde solutions such as low-index/high-buffer fluids, capture/binders to effect wash-out and preinjections to clean out discoloration, basically all fail under a myriad of circumstances and cannot be counted on reliably to deliver a good embalming. Embalming jaundice bodies with formaldehyde is asking for a yellow-greening color reaction in injected tissues. The embalming chemistry of glutaraldehyde, on the other hand, minimizes the dangerous pH changes and maximizes preservation and sanitation without implementing or encouraging the classic and undesirable yellow-greening color reaction that typically haunts jaundice embalming. The comparisons between glutaraldehyde and formaldehyde embalmed bodies is significant, repeatable and observable." By: James H. Bedino, Chemist/Dir. Research The Champion Company
If you do not have access to glutaraldehyde based product. I would recommend mixing 1 gallon of metaflow and pre-injecting to try your best to flush the jaundice then mix 2 gallon tank of metasyn if towards the last gallon if you feel you need something more you can add 8 oz of metafix cavity fluid to the tank.
I wouldn't recommend ever using Introfiant on a jaundice case especially without pre-injecting with metaflow or V2 because I've seen others do that and the case always turn green.
PS: It's liver failure that causes increase levels of bilirubin in the blood which is what causes the yellow discoloration. Billirubin + Formaldehyde = green reaction.
smiff_angel - March 23, 2011 05:45 PM (GMT)
oh brilliant, thank u for that information. :D
i shall ask my company if we can source the glutaraldehyde products u recommended.
absinity - March 24, 2011 12:33 AM (GMT)
You can find my method here. Jaundice post
It's when you get a jaundiced body with edema (which happens fairly often) that things get interesting, and time consuming if you want good results.
absinity - March 24, 2011 12:35 AM (GMT)
Welcome to embalming and stuff!
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smiff_angel - March 24, 2011 08:27 PM (GMT)
Thank u for ur link to the jaundice post, i realised after i wrote my post that there was already one kicking around. :lol:
and thank u for the welcome. :D
justoldmortician - September 9, 2011 02:10 PM (GMT)
Champion Fluid Company makes the best jaundice fluid, (Juandial), in my professional opinion. The key to getting a jaundice body pink and not green is really pretty simple. It just takes a little more time. first things first. CERVICAL RESTRICTION. Then what you need to do is make sure you don't firm them to quick. On the average jaundice case, a minimum of 6 gallons is used. This is to ensure you flush out as much yellow as possible. I use ONE POINT by Pierce as a pre and co-inject. I then use Jaundial as a primary injection. I start out with 24/oz jaundial to 3 gallons of fuid. After injecting 2 of the 3 gallons I add 16 more oz. I then use another 3 gallons with no less then 32 oz of Jaundial. If proper firming still hasn't occured the addition of Di-San will yield expected results. If the body has a lot of edema, Edemaco will be added anytime during the injection process. If the edema is mild, I'll add it in the last 2-3 gallons. If the edema is severe, I add it in the pre-inject and each and every gallon there after.
Another key to achieving a nice pink color is a pink dye. Not a dark red-yellow shaded dye.
When shooting up the head. Make sure you use a much weaker solution than you used on the lower part of the body.
If Swelling is an issue, you need to establish multiple drainage sites or heart tap. If these methods still don't achieve what you hope to see............Multi-point. Ain't no shame in multi-point when your reputation is on the line.
absinity - September 10, 2011 08:47 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (justoldmortician @ Sep 9 2011, 09:10 AM)|
| Ain't no shame in multi-point when your reputation is on the line. |
:agree: It's better to six-point a body than to mess them up by trying to force fluid in from a single injection site when the body dosen't want to co-operate.