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:. Discussion of the definition of "Activity"
| Euroslavia |
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| kamichi |
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Any logged in action should be an indication of activity, just put a limit on how long taxes stack up for to stop abuse of backcollection.
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| Cirrus |
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Vereor papilla!

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| QUOTE | | I personally believe in activity being any purchases, deployments, sales, decommissions, collection of taxes, and/or the paying of bills. Logging on is bad since some people want to see what happens to their nation, even though they are quitting the game. |
This. Any activity should count as activity.
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| WarriorConcept |
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No, this means you can't be deleted for inactivity and you'll be able to look like you're collecting taxes everyday while you're actually saving up. Unless it shows last time they collected taxes AND last time they did a transaction.
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| dealmaster13 |
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So do you think it would be added? (aimed at admins)
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| TheyCallMeJeezy |
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| QUOTE (dealmaster13 @ Jun 10 2007, 03:42 PM) | | So do you think it would be added? (aimed at admins)
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if there is convincing discussion about it then I'm sure Euro might propose it to admin(Kevin)
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| Themea |
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Activity means just that. Activity. I agree with all those who said so and just wanted to throw in my $.02
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| LinkManDX |
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Although there might be trouble with back-collection, this still should be implemented.
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| Themea |
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God of Arbitrary Numbers

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| QUOTE (LinkManDX @ Jun 10 2007, 02:09 PM) | | Although there might be trouble with back-collection, this still should be implemented. |
of what trouble do you speak?
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"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die. " - Sima Yi "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang How to make a pollUna Salus Victus Sedusii
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| LinkManDX |
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I read at one point a huge back-collection scheme made up theoretically for a situation where bills equaled activity. Although I cannot recall exactly what it was, I know it was pretty bad.
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| QUOTE | (07:33:58 PM) <+ShortyCharlemagne> in a burst of hate, (07:34:00 PM) <+ShortyCharlemagne> i hate you.
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| Themea |
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God of Arbitrary Numbers

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I see, so I'm not supposed to support this on some unsubstantiated data?
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"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die. " - Sima Yi "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang How to make a pollUna Salus Victus Sedusii
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| LinkManDX |
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I don't know if you read the "I still support this" thing I said.
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| Themea |
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God of Arbitrary Numbers

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Oh, must have overlooked that part
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"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die. " - Sima Yi "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang How to make a pollUna Salus Victus Sedusii
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| Trotsky the Great |
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I agree. Activity should be counted as doing anything with your nation, except for logging in. Aside from that, anything else should be counted.
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I will create a nation as soon as I can.
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| Delta1212 |
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Just as an FYI about the backlog type scheming. Say you have a nation which is newly created. It's bills are approximately nothing. Now, you have the nation save up for a month or two and not collect any taxes during that time. Send this nation say...10mil. They pay off their bills (which equal pretty much nothing even after such a long time) and then buy up huge amounts of infra. When they collect their two months of taxes, they'll have an enormous amount, for which they paid comparatively zilch for in bills.
That's pretty much how that would work.
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| Themea |
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God of Arbitrary Numbers

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I'll have to remember that. :D
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"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die. " - Sima Yi "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang How to make a pollUna Salus Victus Sedusii
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