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REALLY good idea.

I have very little programming experience, but I don't hink implementation schould be that difficult. Only the prices may be a bit high, as the others already stated.

Wow, cool idea.

I have a little constructive criticism, though. ^_^

Firstly, however much I hate to say this (I have Construction too), I think the extra ship with Construction has to go. The Construction is already one of, if not the strongest bonus resource there is. Adding the possibility of an extra 4 income for those with Construction will completely tip the scale. Nations will need it in order to be on the same level as others.

Another thing, the upkeep costs should start lower, or the infrastructure requirements should start higher. Currently a nation would need ~5700 citizens in order to make a profit with the Barge. Small nations will seriously hurt themselves. :)

Other than that, I like it very much.

:J

The problem is, when you have a harbor, it's implicit that these kinds of ships are already running here. Magically having a harbor doesn't get resources magically in your nation, right?

if you have a harbour, but no own ships, the ressources would be transported by independent transportation companies. I you have own ships, you don't have to pay those guys -> more money for you.

This post has been edited by Askar Ivanovich on May 1 2007, 08:35 AM

Upkeep is too high for the smaller ships and needs rebalancing in my opinion. Assuming a 28% tax rate and not counting income bonuses the breakeven points are:

Barge: $800.00 upkeep / $0.14 tax per person = 5715 citizens
Coastal trading vessels: $1,000.00 upkeep / $0.28 tax per person = 3572 citizens
Roll-on/roll-off ships: $2,000.00 upkeep / $0.42 tax per person = 4726 citizens
Reefer ship: $3,500.00 upkeep / $0.56 tax per person = 6250 citizens
Tankers: $5,000.00 upkeep / $0.70 tax per person = 7143 citizens
Container ships: $7,000.00 upkeep / $0.84 tax per person = 8334 citizens
Bulk carriers: $10,000.00 upkeep / $1.12 tax per person = 8928 citizens

As you can see from the chart above, the Barge is useless, by the time you have enough people to break even you can get Roll-on/roll-off ships; the upkeep should be lowered to about $500.00 or less.

btw, shouldn't crude oil lower the upkeep, and not the production costs?

I tried to edit a bit in the upkeep, and raised the requirement to 300 infra for the barge. :)
What would you suggest for the prices, requirements & upkeeps, you sound to be better to CN-Calculating :P ;)

Your right! Fixed. *Gives a lollipop*

Bump/

The new Break even population counts are as follows:

Barge: $400.00 upkeep / $0.14 tax per person = 2858 citizens
Coastal trading vessels: $800.00 upkeep / $0.28 tax per person = 2858 citizens
Roll-on/roll-off ships: $1,000.00 upkeep / $0.42 tax per person = 2380 citizens
Reefer ship: $2,000.00 upkeep / $0.56 tax per person = 3572 citizens
Tankers: $3,000.00 upkeep / $0.70 tax per person = 4286 citizens
Container ships: $5,000.00 upkeep / $0.84 tax per person = 5953 citizens
Bulk carriers: $7,000.00 upkeep / $1.12 tax per person = 6250 citizens


Now to look at the payoff time and daily income. How long, at the required infra, assuming 9 people per level, does it take for the ship to pay for itself?

Barge:
2,700 citizens * $0.14 tax per person - $400.00 upkeep = -$22.00 daily income
$20,000 cost / -$22.00 = Never paid off
Coastal trading vessels:
3,600 citizens * $0.28 tax per person - $800.00 upkeep = $208.00 daily income
$40,000.00 cost / $208.00 = 193 days
Roll-on/roll-off ships:
5,400 citizens * $0.42 tax per person - $1,000.00 = $1,268.00 daily income
$60,000.00 cost / $1,268.00 = 47 days
Reefer ship:
7,200 citizens * $0.56 tax per person - $2,000.00 upkeep = $2,032.00 daily income
$80,000.00 cost / $2,032.00 = 40 days
Tankers:
10,800 citizens * $0.70 tax per person - $3,000.00 upkeep = $4,560.00 daily income
$120,000 cost / $4,560.00 = 27 days
Container ships:
16,200 citizens * $0.84 tax per person - $5,000.00 upkeep = $8,608.00 daily income
$180,000 cost / $8,608.00 = 21 days
Bulk carriers:
22,500 citizens * $1.12 tax per person - $7,000.00 upkeep = $18,200.00 daily income
$250,000 cost / $18,200.00 = 14 days


The upkeep on the barge is still too high. And, I think the tech requirements are way too high, they should be 1/4 what they are now.

This post has been edited by Slashes-With-Claws on May 2 2007, 01:35 PM

Since there's a barge, how much is the tugboat?

I like this one. I'd get all the reductions :P

I tweaked the tech and upkeep a bit.

I avoided this topic because I thought it was going to be about getting more resources. I was wrong, and I could not love this suggestion more. Very well thought out.

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:D admin looky here, looky looky!!!!! IMPLIMENT IMPLIMENT IMPLIMENT IT!!!!!

One of the best ideas i have ever read. Codos.

Thanks for replies, *Gives Lollipops* :P

nice idea phil :D

I hope it'll be implented...
Now gimme some lollipops

I like it. Alot.

Comment edited. I'm an idiot.

This post has been edited by KingofKings on May 4 2007, 04:06 AM

this is anothewr good idea incorporating ships, i was hoping more could be done in the War and battles section though, like adding warships.

Nice. WANT!