:. CN Sanctioned Stats Depot, Special Edition:, 10 Week Spectacular!

Okay, so maybe "Spectacular!" isn't the most correct phrase. "Where are they now?" might be a bit more truthful, but less likely to get folks to click on the thread. I guess I'll just have to live with the guilt.

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It was 10 weeks ago Friday that I began tracking alliance statistics. In CN, that's an eternity, so I figured I'd do a quick summary of what happened to everyone's various favorite alliances. We'll go from smallest to largest current NS. That last column, which is unlabeled, is 'Nukes' (if you were wondering). I forgot to label it, and am too lazy to redo 12 pictures for that one little goof.

Also, the 'ranks' here are by NS, not score. I didn't have scores at the beginning, so I won't be able to make a comparison. We all like NS more, anyways.

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CDS' numbers are a bit misleading, seeing as how they switched teams and alliance affiliations several weeks ago. They peaked at 1,572,035 NS on February 14, 2007. Since then, the new Coalition of Defensive States has grown to 1,434,866 NS -- still well off their premove peak, but still eeking out a 22% growth from the old CDS' December 29 starting point. At a glance, 22% would earn CDS the coveted 'slowest growing alliance that isn't LUE' award. They lost their sancitoned status, but are still well into the Millionaires club.

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LUE looks like they lost a war. Probably because they did. From their peak of 2,418,565 on January 7, they fell to a low of 466,475 on February 6. Since then, they've creeped back up to where they stand today, albeit with a third of the membership at three-quarters their average strength. Like CDS, LUE also lost their sanction, but they fell much, much further to do so (from the 7th largest alliance).

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GGA has the distinction of being the fastest growing sanctioned alliance, by percent growth. Starting a hair above 1 million NS, they are now at 2.2 million and growing at a healthy clip. GGA also has the distinction of being the only non-neutral sanctioned alliance to grow over the course of GW2. If I didn't know better, I'd say Bilrow made some kind of deal with an ancient evil. They moved up from the smallest sanctioned allince a couple of notches to hold on to the 10th spot these days. They also had the second fastest membership growth of 42%.


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The NpO has posted decent growth over this period, moving from the 10th largest alliance to the 9th.

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ODN's nonparticipation in the GW2 festivities may have helped them grow quite a bit. But what is likely to feed their future growth is the massive influx of new member nations, up 46% from the end of last year. Such growth hasn't exactly helped their average NS numbers, but I suppose such things will come in time. They moved up one place from 9th largest to 8th largest sanctioned alliance.

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Not counting LUE and CDS (since one no longer exists and the other got absolutely clobbered in GW2), NAAC is the 2nd slowest growing alliance by percent growth. By way of comparison, the GGA grew 1.2 million NS over the same period NAAC grew 1.3 million -- except that GGA was less than 40% NAAC's size. Although what growth they have is very steady, at this rate, they'll continue to saunter down the ranks of sanctioned alliances (down 2 from December) unless something changes.

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As a neutral observer, I feel free to say that GOONS are clearly the most awesome alliance ever. They grew 82% over this period, jumping two places higher in the sanctioned alliances pecking order. That makes them the 4th fastest growing alliance during this period, and the 2nd fastest growing combatant in GW2. GOONS have also added a healthy 11% to their membership, not ODN or GGA level growth, but not bad. :wub:

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GPA was doing extremely well, until some strangeness happened, and a bunch of very large nations left them. Now they'll have to settle for 'very well'. They lost 1 place to become the 5th largest alliance by NS rank.

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IRON is now 101% larger than they were back in December. They have remarkably steady growth that moved them up 2 places in the alliance rankings.

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I suppose you could say GATO's growth was 'steady' or 'measured'. 'Laid back' might be a nice way to say it. The gist is the same. GATO retains the #3 spot in the alliance rankings, but whereas they once stood below Legion and well above their nearest rivals, they are now fighting to stay out of striking distance of IRON and FAN; both of whom are growing faster enough than GATO to overtake them in the 4-6 week timeframe. None of this is helped by the slow loss of members. Behind CDS (no longer exists) and LUE (lost a war, stifling peace conditions), GATO is the only alliance to *lose* a net number of members during this timeframe. Perhaps Brown, before asking what they can do for you, should ask what they can do for Brown.

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Those wacky Legionnaires stayed out of GW2 and marched straight into first place for a little while. Although the battle for #1 looks like it might continue for a while, it seems clear Legion benefitted a great deal from the war, from a numbers point of view. From a base as the second largest alliance, they've nearly doubled in size.

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The growth of everyone's favorite Imperialist Hegemon, the NPO, got clobbered by GW2. Although they have recovered nicely, and are now growing at a healthy and above-average, clip their percent growth is kept at an underwhelming 55%. I suspect this has something to do with them being disproportionately targetted by a number of alliances who probably didn't think their strategic plan through all the way, but what do I know? Whatever problems they face, it hasn't kept NPO from being the first alliance to cross 5 million NS, first to 6 million, tied with Legion across the 7 million mark, and (as of tomorrow, unless something goes horribly wrong), first across the 8 million mark.

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And there we are. A brief look at the original 12 sanctioned alliances I began tracking back at the end of December. :)

Edit: 12 != 19 and me spel gud
Edit 2007-03-24: New image hosting. :wub: Diskord

This post has been edited by Unspeakable Evil on Mar 24 2007, 01:39 PM

Very nice.

Also for the CDS, since GW2 two different alliances have split off from them, first TDO and then COLD.

This post has been edited by Jebbie on Mar 10 2007, 12:37 PM

I love your threads :wub:

I didn't know that. It could help explain the new CDS' sluggish growth (I've wondered about it).

Try Coalition of Defensive states, thats the main one right now.

EDIT: They changed the name when they switched colors

This post has been edited by Might Makes Right on Mar 10 2007, 12:39 PM

Statistics = win (unlike most CN drama)

Excellent read, UE.

(Also, does anyone know ODN's recruitment secrets? Seriously, they've had a reaaally nice membership growth rate since early February.)

Very nice, this is pretty awesome.

They claimed it was whales and orange cake in my other thread. Unfortunately, few tasty things are black so it's hard for GOONS to duplicate that. Plus we kind of killed all our whales.

Yeah, the next 10 Week update (if I do one) would track the new CDS. But since the original 'Dark' version is not the same as the new 'Defensive' one (really, if Alliance Affiliation is all I go by) I make the distinction. If CDS went by their abbreviation in their Alliance Affiliation, then the change from Dark to Defensive wouldn't have affected anything, but I assume (and mention above) that CDS didn't completely disappear, they just mostly switched to a new alliance.

Very well done again :J

If I told you, I would have to kill you.

Why would you track new CDS, there are other alliances bigger then them which you did not track (probably due to lack of statistics but again). FAN, VE, ONOS, NoR, TOP are all stronger or at least about CDS size (FAN being much stronger).

Tracking only sanctioned alliances should work well enough.

He began tracking the original 12 sanctioned alliances back in December, and these are those alliances now. That's why he doesn't have FAN and VE.

He began tracking the original 12 sanctioned alliances back in December, and these are those alliances now. That's why he doesn't have FAN and VE.

What he said.

To expand a bit, it wasn't until near the time when VE and FAN got sanctioned that I found out you could find the stats for individual alliances (using the real time query tool). So I was able to continue tracking them. I'll stop tracking the Defensive CDS when they top the Dark CDS.

Very interesting stuff. Thanks for this. :)

With regards the real time query tool, it was only added after the war, so it would have been hard for you to track them using it before then.

Awesome work. Good analysis. Clever quips. Pretty tables. Give me your sex.

He began tracking the original 12 sanctioned alliances back in December, and these are those alliances now. That's why he doesn't have FAN and VE.

To make it simple, yes I knew that but said that it still didn't make sense to continue tracking them after they lost their sanction. Now seeing exactly when they overtake Dark CDS will be interesting.

great work, I like reading stuff like this! :J

I kept tracking CDS after they lost their sanction because even absent sanction, they were one of the larger and more powerful alliances around. I keep track of a fair number of unsanctioned alliances, because sanction is not the be-all end-all of an interesting alliance. It is very nice to have, I will admit. ;)

Now, keeping track past their switch of collective alliance affiliation would typically not make any sense. Its just taken longer than I expected for the new CDS to surpass the old CDS. On the plus side, the next time some large alliance decides to switch their AA, we have a baseline.

Plus, this thread is only the alliances I have 10 weeks of data for. That's limited to the 12 listed, even though two of them are no longer sanctioned.

I guess in short, what 'chu got against unsanctioned alliances? :angry:

Normally I' head over heels for your threads, but this one gets 9/10 for lack of FAN.

:D

good job like always