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Jeoshua
Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:32 PM


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Curses... foiled by the Rogue Rogue again!

Awesome, love the new addition... :J

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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:32 PM


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Interesting addition, Admin, although I personally think that it should be affected by your nation's location.

It would be SOMETHING to use that location for.

In real life, you aren't necessarily affected by nuclear explosions on the other side of the planet.


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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:32 PM


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Nice addition. The environment hit shouldn't be too devestating (unless everyone goes crazy) and it adds realism. :J

However, I don't think CN will be seeing that +1 happiness bonus anytime soon. 10 nukes or less per month is probably going to be extremely (if not next to impossible) to reach, especially with rogues.

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Hmmm....now the world needs to figure out how to keep people from using nukes...


Maybe a nuclear council? Nations would apply to have permission from the council to use a nuke. If the council deems nuclear use appropriate then they could go ahead and use it. However, with rogues, such a council probably wouldn't work, and many people probably wouldn't even listen.

edit: spelling. Spelled nukes "nues".

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Jeoshua
Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:33 PM


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QUOTE (Chris_Kaos @ Jul 12 2006, 02:32 PM)
Interesting addition, Admin, although I personally think that it should be affected by your nation's location.

It would be SOMETHING to use that location for.

In real life, you aren't necessarily affected by nuclear explosions on the other side of the planet.

Sure you are. If 40 some nukes went off in asia right now, the whole world would be affected at the radiation got swept up in the crosswinds


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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:33 PM


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msot cool


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Ragashingo
Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:35 PM


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With the number of nukes around its extremely unlikely that 10 won't be fired off in 30 days. This seems a bit overly harsh, maybe it should be like 40 - 50 nukes which would represent a real war instead of 10 which represents what passes for peace around here...


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Hannibal1
Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:40 PM


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I lost half a star... I'm not perfect environment anymore. :(

At least i know others are suffering too... ROFLMAO
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QUOTE (Ragashingo @ Jul 12 2006, 02:35 PM)
With the number of nukes around its extremely unlikely that 10 won't be fired off in 30 days. This seems a bit overly harsh, maybe it should be like 40 - 50 nukes which would represent a real war instead of 10 which represents what passes for peace around here...

Ragashingo is right. In a major nuclear war, anywhere from 25 to 50 could go off, and that's not even coming close to exhauting our resources.

I would guess that 15-25 nukes this month were rogue attacks. That is to say, non aligned.


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GREATBAY
Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:41 PM


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I lost a dollar a day for each citizen in tax,5k less a day,I would see this as a permanent event...feel sorry for new nations have to pay so long for something they will probably never obtain.I wouldn't wait for too many hurrah's on this one.
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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:42 PM


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QUOTE (Squintus @ Jul 12 2006, 02:24 PM)
Try to think of it as a uniting force against rogues.

And alliances which use nukes in retaliation against them.


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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:42 PM


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Make it 1% instead of 2%....it is way too punishing as is...


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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:44 PM


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What about a global cap and trade system -- i.e. all nations agree to limit the global radiation level to .2, which means no more than 10 nukes per month. These could be doled out to the major alliances, or we could have a monthly inter-alliance auction of nuclear credits with the proceeds going to an inter-alliance aid fund to provide the resources to deal with rogues by using conventional weaponry rather than nuking them.

As to curbing rogue use of nukes -- what about giving them the option to sign a non-proliferation agreement as an individual nation?

Eager to hear others' thoughts.

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Also, it seems that if you have been attacked with a nuclear weapon, it severly affects your happiness for a long time. Longer than before.


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>_> Damn, radiation SUX.


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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:47 PM


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This "improvement" sucks so long as the suggestion that it be based on the amount of total land in CN is not implemented along with it. The more land there is, the less effect radiation should have. The global radiation level is only going to continue rising, as the number of nations, and thus the number of nuclear-capable nations, increases.

I think the nation of the individual who came up with this idea should be knocked down to zero infra, along with anyone who has used a nuke in the past month. :angry:


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QUOTE (Letum @ Jul 12 2006, 02:42 PM)
Make it 1% instead of 2%....it is way too punishing as is...

:J


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"My point is that one person is responsible. Always. If H-bombs exist--and they do--some man controls them. In terms of morals there is no such thing as 'state.' Just men. Individuals. Each responsible for his own acts."
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hey thats no fair. with this new addition <huuuu> MY CITIZENS LOST 85 CENTS ""(>_<)""!!!!!! lol, but 4 real i did.... but i like the addition.... i would like it even better if my citizens can get their 85 cents back <reddev> <<%

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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:50 PM


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QUOTE (Jeoshua @ Jul 12 2006, 02:32 PM)
Awesome, love the new addition... :J

I hope you get nuked by a rogue for that.


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Rich333
Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:51 PM


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QUOTE (hubbird @ Jul 12 2006, 02:44 PM)
As to curbing rogue use of nukes -- what about giving them the option to sign a non-proliferation agreement as an individual nation?

Eager to hear others' thoughts.

Really? You want to hear my thoughts?

The admin basically just handed the game to the rogues.


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"Professor, your words sound good but there is something slippery about them. Too much power in the hands of individuals--surely you would not want ... well, H-missiles for example--to be controlled by one irresponsible person?"

"My point is that one person is responsible. Always. If H-bombs exist--and they do--some man controls them. In terms of morals there is no such thing as 'state.' Just men. Individuals. Each responsible for his own acts."
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Posted: Jul 12 2006, 12:54 PM


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QUOTE (Rich333 @ Jul 12 2006, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE (hubbird @ Jul 12 2006, 02:44 PM)
As to curbing rogue use of nukes -- what about giving them the option to sign a non-proliferation agreement as an individual nation?

Eager to hear others' thoughts.

Really? You want to hear my thoughts?

The admin basically just handed the game to the rogues.

Quite true. People will love setting off nukes so the whole CN will suffer. Then the rouges will leave CN. <sadno>

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