:. Ruling on extortion of donations for in-game gain, Please read and understand

Extorting Donations
Donations are excluded from any kind of IC payment. Anyone found extorting others for OOC payments will be warned in-game.

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It is officially against Cyber Nations rules to demand a donation from any other nation with the threat of any sort of negative consequence toward that nation and/or the player controlling the nation. If you attempt to do this, you will receive a warning.

I'll leave this thread open for questions.


edited to please the e-lawyers
edited again, screw the e-lawyers

This post has been edited by Thoreau on Aug 26 2007, 08:32 PM

I recall a previous post where the moderation team said it was fine to give the option of donations as payment so long as other IC options were available.

what if you assign a donation a certain IC value? Like, say, you could demand reps of 9 mil or one donation?

This is the new policy, that one is no longer in effect.

No Bel Air, that's not allowed either.

This policy change is intended to reverse that ruling. By requiring either a donation or some other IC option who is to say the IC option is so far out of line and impossible that the only viable option is sending a donation? From now on, donations must remain out of IC conflicts.

So then...

If I were to give a hypothetical offer like such:

Where a donation is an option, but not mandatory for whatever reps I've asked, that is now illegal?

EDIT: k, thats illegal now, understood

This post has been edited by bigwoody on Aug 26 2007, 07:53 PM

What if the paying nation offered voluntarily to make a donation in lieu of paying IC money? Would it be against the rules to accept?

Because THAT couldn't be exploited.. <sadno>

That is no longer allowed.



Edit: My apologies for stating otherwise and for deleting posts that were in error, I didn't want to cause any further confusion here.

I can respect and understand this ruling and we will abide by it.

Thanks for the clarification on the rule, as that is the situation that happened to one of our members.

IF the mods/admin have any questions regarding the history of this situation, please PM me.

What about the Order of the Black Rose? They require you to donate to join their alliance. Is that against the rules?

That's your option to join the alliance. I don't see how that would be illegal. It's their decision to join that alliance and pay.

Right, I just wasn't sure because it seemed like admin's saying IC actions cannot be tied to OOC actions (donations).

I'm pretty sure that would be breaking the rules. It's almost exactly what the rule is being worded to prevent.

what about requiring a nation to buy a donation with IC money for a third party (eg, reply to a "selling donation" post in the gameplay sales thread, and direct the donation towards the extorting nation, paying for it with IC money from the extorted nation).

What would happen if the one paying the reps decides to propose the donation instead of sending it in aid.

If that is illegal, will the mods be aggressively looking for any such activities. Even if neither party is willing to report it and feel its unfair.

This post has been edited by israfeel on Aug 27 2007, 10:51 AM

No donations, period, in the context of reps.

Though that does bring up the problem of people faking such claims, too.

What about if someone is paid 3 million for a donation, and then doesn't donate, and that party is then attacked for not paying, is this being extorted for a donation? What proof will be needed to proof the person who didn't pay the donation agreed to do so?

Will this nation just recieve a war, or will the war also be canceled?

Thanks for the help mods if you have any questions concerns ect feel free too send me message