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Title: Better Nuclear System
Description: More Realistic, and fair, plus drama!!!!


1ofkind - September 2, 2007 05:21 PM (GMT)
Nuclear weapons aren't anything special anymore. Even boy scout can make an atomic bomb today so I think the whole nuclear weapon thing needs to be redone: make nuclear weapons a result of a national wonder, and not a privilege under certain conditions. Perhaps a great university would make a great subject for this:
Great University - $35,000,000 - The great university is a central location for scholars within your nation. Decreases technology costs -10% and increases population happiness +.2% (+2 for every 1000) of your nation's technology level over 200 up to 3,000 tech. Allows nation to develop nuclear weapons.

Another thing about nuclear weapons I think should change is the power of nuclear weapons by having the available by the megaton:

5 megaton warhead $150,000 - small nuclear weapon, able to destroy 40 infra, 40 miles of land, 25% loss of defending infantry
10 megaton warhead$250,000 - minimal standard nuclear weapon, able to destroy 85 infra, 100 land, and 50% of defending infantry.
20 megaton warhead$500,000 - Current one, but can only kill 90% of defending troops.
50 megaton warhead$13.5 million - Destroys 33% of the defending nation's infra, and land (no cap).
100 megaton warhead$40 million - Destroys 70% of defending nation's infra, and land, plus forces the nation into a 20 day nuclear anarchy.
200 megaton warhead$100 million - Destroys 95% of a defending nations infra, land, and places a nation into nuclear anarchy for 30 days
1000 megaton warhead$1billion - A weapon that is an honor to have to be used upon. Destroys everything in a nation including, creating a loophole into the rules as in everything meaning all improvements, and national wonders to. Also places nation into a 45 day nuclear anarchy.

I'd personally love the touch of drama such beauties would add to the game, and I know that the bigger nations would be down onto their knees begging for this not to happen, because the current effects of them on them is practically a joke due to all the buffering numbers of infra they have even though they cost so much.

Sir BluJohn - September 2, 2007 05:23 PM (GMT)
No. That 200 megaton is a beast, and nations wouldn't have to save for too long to use it. Interesting idea, but it ain't happening.

sparta - September 2, 2007 05:27 PM (GMT)
i like this idea. although i think the 1,000 megaton is too powerful and big nations will be able to come up with 1 bill in a matter of 10 or 15 days. eithier make it 99% or make it not destory all improvments or increase the price.

(DAC)Syzygy - September 2, 2007 05:28 PM (GMT)
lulz. dude, have you any idea how easy it is for a high ranked nation to gather 100 million? i would not even need 1 month for it. and after that i can simply "destroy" 95% of my opponents infra in one hit?

even a billion cash to entirely kill a top-ranked nation would only need around 6-8 months to save. - thats not even 33% of the time that the top-nation spent in building up.

(DAC)Syzygy - September 2, 2007 05:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 11:27 AM)
i like this idea. although i think the 1,000 megaton is too powerful and big nations will be able to come up with 1 bill in a matter of 10 or 15 days. eithier make it 99% or make it not destory all improvments or increase the price.

in all honesty, can you ***PLEASE*** do all of us a favor?

i watched several of your comments and suggestions in the last days and you do not seem to have the *slightest* knowledge about this game. can you ***PLEASE*** stop posting here and get some experience first? what you say/estimate/suggest is 95% crap and 5% weird.

please do not consider this as "flame" or "trolling". its just the truth, you have no idea about the game mechanics and how any suggestion must work to be at least *A BIT* useful or benefitial. please enjoy playing the game for some weeks and month, gather some knowledge about it, read some guides, do some research on your own and then come back.

I would very appreciate this. Thanks in advance.

Green Man - September 2, 2007 05:50 PM (GMT)
You know how long it takes me to get the 200 megaton bomb? A solid 11 days is the answer. Seriously, these weapons would only become fair if the cost were multipled by 6 or 7 the effects were divided by 3 (more for the 200 megaton).

fuzzycat - September 2, 2007 05:54 PM (GMT)
OMG; there has someone destructive needs...

How about
1000 megaton warhead$ 1 billion - ban the player
10000 megaton warhead$ 2 billion - ban the player and all his friends.
100000 megaton warhead$ 3 billion - let the computer of the player explode
1000000 megaton warhead$ 10 billion - make the player dead.

For the 1000000 megaton warhead we'd need to set up a mafia to track the players and kill them. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh and yes one is missing:
10000000 megaton warhead$ 50 billion - planet Bob explodes from the radiactive derstriuction. The game ends. Everybody is spending his time elsewhere then.

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 05:57 PM (GMT)
No. Anyone who votes yes deserves to be hit by a 1000 megaton warhead.

So someone spends 2 years playing and then some guy gos rouge and wipes all that out. Nucluer rouges are bad enough. This would kill the game.

der_ko - September 2, 2007 06:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (fuzzycat @ Sep 2 2007, 11:54 AM)
OMG; there has someone destructive needs...

How about
1000 megaton warhead$ 1 billion - ban the player
10000 megaton warhead$ 2 billion - ban the player and all his friends.
100000 megaton warhead$ 3 billion - let the computer of the player explode
1000000 megaton warhead$ 10 billion - make the player dead.

For the 1000000 megaton warhead we'd need to set up a mafia to track the players and kill them. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh and yes one is missing:
10000000 megaton warhead$ 50 billion - planet Bob explodes from the radiactive derstriuction. The game ends. Everybody is spending his time elsewhere then.

This is a good idea. :v:

sparta - September 2, 2007 06:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE ((DAC)Syzygy @ Sep 2 2007, 11:35 AM)
in all honesty, can you ***PLEASE*** do all of us a favor?

i watched several of your comments and suggestions in the last days and you do not seem to have the *slightest* knowledge about this game. can you ***PLEASE*** stop posting here and get some experience first? what you say/estimate/suggest is 95% crap and 5% weird.

please do not consider this as "flame" or "trolling". its just the truth, you have no idea about the game mechanics and how any suggestion must work to be at least *A BIT* useful or benefitial. please enjoy playing the game for some weeks and month, gather some knowledge about it, read some guides, do some research on your own and then come back.

I would very appreciate this. Thanks in advance.

ok dude, WHO THE **** do you think you are. you think your the smart guy, guss what buddy, i don't give a crap if i don't know much about this game. you obvisiously have been playing this game since like almost the start. i in the other hand have been playing for only a mounth and i've been making more ideas in my pinkie then you ever will. all you do is comment while you don't give any ideas of your own within your skull. don't consider it as a flame or trolling, its the truth? i've got a lot more truth facts about you buddy but i don'y want to say it here because i don't this isent the right place to say it. you giveing me %, ill give you %. 60% nerd, 39% never kissed a girl. 1% gay. how about those numbers. oh and don't *bending 2 fingers in each hand* consider this as flame or trolling eithier. its just the truth.

i would very dam well appreciate not to tell me what you think is crap about me. if you don't like the ideas i have, then with all do respect even though you don't deserve it, SHUT THE **** UP AND JUST SAY YOU DON'T LIKE IT! SIMPLE, DONE, THATS THAT!

Jebbie - September 2, 2007 06:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE ((DAC)Syzygy @ Sep 2 2007, 11:35 AM)
in all honesty, can you ***PLEASE*** do all of us a favor?

i watched several of your comments and suggestions in the last days and you do not seem to have the *slightest* knowledge about this game. can you ***PLEASE*** stop posting here and get some experience first? what you say/estimate/suggest is 95% crap and 5% weird.

please do not consider this as "flame" or "trolling". its just the truth, you have no idea about the game mechanics and how any suggestion must work to be at least *A BIT* useful or benefitial. please enjoy playing the game for some weeks and month, gather some knowledge about it, read some guides, do some research on your own and then come back.

I would very appreciate this. Thanks in advance.

ok dude, WHO THE **** do you think you are. you think your the smart guy, guss what buddy, i don't give a crap if i don't know much about this game. you obvisiously have been playing this game since like almost the start. i in the other hand have been playing for only a mounth and i've been making more ideas in my pinkie then you ever will. all you do is comment while you don't give any ideas of your own within your skull. don't consider it as a flame or trolling, its the truth? i've got a lot more truth facts about you buddy but i don'y want to say it here because i don't this isent the right place to say it. you giveing me %, ill give you %. 60% nerd, 39% never kissed a girl. 1% gay. how about those numbers. oh and don't *bending 2 fingers in each hand* consider this as flame or trolling eithier. its just the truth.

i would very dam well appreciate not to tell me what you think is crap about me. if you don't like the ideas i have, then with all do respect even though you don't deserve it, SHUT THE **** UP AND JUST SAY YOU DON'T LIKE IT! SIMPLE, DONE, THATS THAT!

you go girl



also, this is a terrible suggestion because of the reasons said above.

sparta - September 2, 2007 06:26 PM (GMT)
im not a girl lol

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 06:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE ((DAC)Syzygy @ Sep 2 2007, 11:35 AM)
in all honesty, can you ***PLEASE*** do all of us a favor?

i watched several of your comments and suggestions in the last days and you do not seem to have the *slightest* knowledge about this game. can you ***PLEASE*** stop posting here and get some experience first? what you say/estimate/suggest is 95% crap and 5% weird.

please do not consider this as "flame" or "trolling". its just the truth, you have no idea about the game mechanics and how any suggestion must work to be at least *A BIT* useful or benefitial. please enjoy playing the game for some weeks and month, gather some knowledge about it, read some guides, do some research on your own and then come back.

I would very appreciate this. Thanks in advance.

ok dude, WHO THE **** do you think you are. you think your the smart guy, guss what buddy, i don't give a crap if i don't know much about this game. you obvisiously have been playing this game since like almost the start. i in the other hand have been playing for only a mounth and i've been making more ideas in my pinkie then you ever will. all you do is comment while you don't give any ideas of your own within your skull. don't consider it as a flame or trolling, its the truth? i've got a lot more truth facts about you buddy but i don'y want to say it here because i don't this isent the right place to say it. you giveing me %, ill give you %. 60% nerd, 39% never kissed a girl. 1% gay. how about those numbers. oh and don't *bending 2 fingers in each hand* consider this as flame or trolling eithier. its just the truth.

i would very dam well appreciate not to tell me what you think is crap about me. if you don't like the ideas i have, then with all do respect even though you don't deserve it, SHUT THE **** UP AND JUST SAY YOU DON'T LIKE IT! SIMPLE, DONE, THATS THAT!

Now that post just makes people agree with Syzygy.

The fact that you are suggesting so many things doesn't make a difference. I know that Syzygy would only post a Suggestion if he knew it was good, balanced and overall a good addition to the game. You just post pointless ideas that are bad and unbalanced.

You could post 100 suggestions, but 1 of Syzygy would proberly get more support then all yours combined. I advise before you post a suggestion again you stop and think.

Whats good about my idea? Whats Bad? How will this help the game?

Think of any arguements people may have against it.

Think of stuff like that and suggest your perfected idea with good grammer, and you are more likly to get support.

freelance_r - September 2, 2007 06:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 12:26 PM)
im not a girl lol

Link to your nation please ?

sparta - September 2, 2007 06:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rozalia @ Sep 2 2007, 12:27 PM)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE ((DAC)Syzygy @ Sep 2 2007, 11:35 AM)
in all honesty, can you ***PLEASE*** do all of us a favor?

i watched several of your comments and suggestions in the last days and you do not seem to have the *slightest* knowledge about this game. can you ***PLEASE*** stop posting here and get some experience first? what you say/estimate/suggest is 95% crap and 5% weird.

please do not consider this as "flame" or "trolling". its just the truth, you have no idea about the game mechanics and how any suggestion must work to be at least *A BIT* useful or benefitial. please enjoy playing the game for some weeks and month, gather some knowledge about it, read some guides, do some research on your own and then come back.

I would very appreciate this. Thanks in advance.

ok dude, WHO THE **** do you think you are. you think your the smart guy, guss what buddy, i don't give a crap if i don't know much about this game. you obvisiously have been playing this game since like almost the start. i in the other hand have been playing for only a mounth and i've been making more ideas in my pinkie then you ever will. all you do is comment while you don't give any ideas of your own within your skull. don't consider it as a flame or trolling, its the truth? i've got a lot more truth facts about you buddy but i don'y want to say it here because i don't this isent the right place to say it. you giveing me %, ill give you %. 60% nerd, 39% never kissed a girl. 1% gay. how about those numbers. oh and don't *bending 2 fingers in each hand* consider this as flame or trolling eithier. its just the truth.

i would very dam well appreciate not to tell me what you think is crap about me. if you don't like the ideas i have, then with all do respect even though you don't deserve it, SHUT THE **** UP AND JUST SAY YOU DON'T LIKE IT! SIMPLE, DONE, THATS THAT!

Now that post just makes people agree with Syzygy.

The fact that you are suggesting so many things doesn't make a difference. I know that Syzygy would only post a Suggestion if he knew it was good, balanced and overall a good addition to the game. You just post pointless ideas that are bad and unbalanced.

You could post 100 suggestions, but 1 of Syzygy would proberly get more support then all yours combined. I advise before you post a suggestion again you stop and think.

Whats good about my idea? Whats Bad? How will this help the game?

Think of any arguements people may have against it.

Think of stuff like that and suggest your perfected idea with good grammer, and you are more likly to get support.

hey rozalia or whoever the **** you are. how about think of a way to make a girl like you enough to let them touch them without throwing up will ya. because your ideas arent any better. and they never will. just shove that gay profile pic up...nvm im done. im just gonna leave it at that.

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 06:42 PM (GMT)
You call my profile pic gay ROFLMAO. You obvisly don't know what gay means. I won't insult you as I don't know what you look like but I doubt any girl would touch you with that mouth. If there is such a girl I would slap her.


Anyway, fix your post. I don't even know what you're saying. Also link to your nation. The HoGmen will be coming.

LorNightmare - September 2, 2007 06:44 PM (GMT)
its not that gay...

LorNightmare - September 2, 2007 06:44 PM (GMT)
but its not normal to have lol

sparta - September 2, 2007 06:44 PM (GMT)
you would slap a girl, ewwwwww no wonder.....

freelance_r - September 2, 2007 06:46 PM (GMT)
My prediction for this thread.

1 Closed and locked very quickly
2 When (DAC)Syzygy & Rozalia figure out what nation is yours, takes an ingame action.
3 sparta, gets POed posts complaint thread on OWF why he is being attacked.
4 Community LOLZ the :popcorn: comes out

sparta - September 2, 2007 06:49 PM (GMT)
yo man i don't care. i bet you don't want to talk to e like a normal human being to settle this. look i might of said some mean things but its just i don't take crap from ppl that easily.

sparta - September 2, 2007 06:52 PM (GMT)
also i don't fight physicaly with anybody because thats not my style. i just talk like a normal human being to settle it. thats all. look if you want ill apoligize but i don't take crap like that.

freelance_r - September 2, 2007 06:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 12:49 PM)
yo man i don't care. i bet you don't want to talk to e like a normal human being to settle this. look i might of said some mean things but its just i don't take crap from ppl that easily.

I actually respect that, however (DAC)Syzygy has invested a year and 1/2 of his life in the game and knows exactly the correct calculations for every scenario, like allot of us seasoned veterans, in his own way he was trying to be polite, you were not.

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 06:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LorNightmare @ Sep 2 2007, 06:44 PM)
but its not normal to have lol

Whats not normal to have. What my avator, sig or maybe my name. I like the characters in my avator and sig. Am I forced to put a man in their place. No I ain't. You're just being sexist.

Also sparta. Yeah you sure talk like a normal human being don't you, your past posts deventally prove that don't they.

Pray give me a link to your nation so we may "Talk".

freelance_r - September 2, 2007 07:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rozalia @ Sep 2 2007, 12:56 PM)
Pray give me a link to your nation so we may "Talk".

CN definition:
QUOTE

So I can send a crack commando team into your capitol city to teach the word humble to your leader

sparta - September 2, 2007 07:01 PM (GMT)
look i don't want to fight and i just want to talk like a normal human being. i know what your gonna do and it will only prove that your scared.

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 07:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 07:01 PM)
look i don't want to fight and i just want to talk like a normal human being. i know what your gonna do and it will only prove that your scared.

So I'm the one scared even though your the one not giving a link. Right :huh:.

sparta - September 2, 2007 07:03 PM (GMT)
yea im scared. at least i admit it. unlike you. dude just stop ok theres really nothing to prove.

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 07:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 07:03 PM)
yea im scared. at least i admit it. unlike you. dude just stop ok theres really nothing to prove.

You are so lucky you are called sparta. However if I have to go threw 50 pages to find your nation I will. Oh and heres a new avator just for you.

Sir BluJohn - September 2, 2007 07:07 PM (GMT)
You sound oddly like Benjamin1776. Related perhaps?

sparta - September 2, 2007 07:10 PM (GMT)
yea looks......somewhat.....less.....gay.....and what are you going to do if you find me? attack me? because believe me it will only end up to your destruction and i don't want that to happen.

P.S. i found your nation already, nice. 14k strength, not bad.

sparta - September 2, 2007 07:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sir BluJohn @ Sep 2 2007, 01:07 PM)
You sound oddly like Benjamin1776. Related perhaps?

who me? i don't who he is?

Myalam Soleichunn - September 2, 2007 07:11 PM (GMT)
Flame war with one major participant?

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 07:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 07:10 PM)
yea looks......somewhat.....less.....gay.....and what are you going to do if you find me? attack me? because believe me it will only end up to your destruction and i don't want that to happen.

P.S. i found your nation already, nice. 14k strength, not bad.

Just you wait. I doubt you're in my range so I'm lining up someone just for you.

Also having a girl in my avator doesn't make me gay. I just put people I like in my avator. Yes real gay isn't it. I changed my Avator to Melfice just because you're going to feel my blade. Your soul shall wail :awesome:.

sparta - September 2, 2007 07:15 PM (GMT)
oh so your afriad to settle this without any violence. dude im telling ya.

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 07:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 07:15 PM)
oh so your afriad to settle this without any violence. dude im telling ya.

Well you deventally have the edge considering I don't know what your nation is. So come on, bring it.

freelance_r - September 2, 2007 07:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 01:10 PM)
yea looks......somewhat.....less.....gay.....and what are you going to do if you find me? attack me? because believe me it will only end up to your destruction and i don't want that to happen.


Dude, this was not one of the smartest things to type in here, this won't end well for you.

der_ko - September 2, 2007 07:18 PM (GMT)
Sparta, give us your nation link or you'll get banned.

sparta - September 2, 2007 07:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (freelance_r @ Sep 2 2007, 01:17 PM)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 01:10 PM)
yea looks......somewhat.....less.....gay.....and what are you going to do if you find me? attack me? because believe me it will only end up to your destruction and i don't want that to happen.


Dude, this was not one of the smartest things to type in here, this won't end well for you.

no im not fighting, im only saying it will lead to somthing bad more for you. beleive me. and i will be banned? what kind of threat is that? how could you even say that?

Rozalia - September 2, 2007 07:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 07:20 PM)
QUOTE (freelance_r @ Sep 2 2007, 01:17 PM)
QUOTE (sparta @ Sep 2 2007, 01:10 PM)
yea looks......somewhat.....less.....gay.....and what are you going to do if you find me? attack me? because believe me it will only end up to your destruction and i don't want that to happen.


Dude, this was not one of the smartest things to type in here, this won't end well for you.

no im not fighting, im only saying it will lead to somthing bad more for you. beleive me. and i will be banned? what kind of threat is that? how could you even say that?

Right. So lets see your nation then. Let be well scared. Also the mods should make you put a link in your sig considering theres the allience sparta.




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