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White Wolf - July 17, 2007 07:34 AM (GMT)
Ok i get that FAN was total asking for an but kicking, and dont get me wronge i dont personaly care who wins, i am to new to care, but it seems to me that most major alliances not allow tech raiding anyway it is destructive and wronge, so why dont the larger alliances stomp down on it, i mean was the YN5 really that bad?

Sarriz - July 17, 2007 07:36 AM (GMT)
Well that's complicated...

What's your nation link White Wolf? We can talk about this via CN.

Kaiser Winterfeldt - July 17, 2007 07:42 AM (GMT)
I think there are more alliances that allow tech raids than there are that don't. Still, no, YN5 wasn't a bad idea. It's good to see alliances stepping up and protecting their spheres, but at the same time it isn't possible or sensible for everyone to play [enter resident color sphere here]-police.

White Wolf - July 17, 2007 08:12 AM (GMT)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192


And i see what you mean kinda, but at the same time, if just the 12 sationed allianes steped up then it would be blow way out of the water.

Arcades057 - July 17, 2007 08:15 AM (GMT)
Oh snap, he gave it out, LoL.

How often does THAT happen?

Stefan Uros VI - July 17, 2007 11:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 02:12 AM)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192


And i see what you mean kinda, but at the same time, if just the 12 sationed allianes steped up then it would be blow way out of the water.

That, my friend, was a very bad move

NowaCorp - July 17, 2007 12:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 02:12 AM)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192

Quoting 'dis.

I'm going to tell you a story. Ahem: might makes right. Sarriz and the nice gentlemen over at \m/ will be sure to give you a personal demonstration shortly.

Lord Sharpe - July 17, 2007 12:22 PM (GMT)
Yeah, you... nub. How DARE you ask a question on THESE boards!

<M>

CRex - July 17, 2007 12:29 PM (GMT)
Someone should quick accept White Wolf or at least let him fly their Pending AA to cover him. He asks a question and the first person to cruise through the thread tries to tech raid him, simply because they don't like the question.

While the question wasn't the most elegant piece of prose ever written it was respectful and at least a decent attempt by Whitewolf to correct his ignorance.

Sadly we have too many impotent nations that need to resort to cyberbullying to feel good about themselves. Tech raiding is one thing, Shark Week was good, but crap like Sarriz is threatening is flat out 'I'm on a power trip and have a sanctioned alliance that will back me when I start to get my ass kicked.'

Whitewolf, if you missed all the drama, Sarriz or a fellow \m/ember is about to tech raid you, I suggest switching to peace mode and finding an alliance.

Edit: White Wolf is in a 5 person alliance, unless \m/ change the rules or someone goes inactive he's good.

Highbuzz - July 17, 2007 12:32 PM (GMT)
LOL!!! Hay \m/ i dont know how to fite??? come over we talk in cn!!!

my nation ID: 8670 309


No really \m/, be nice on the guy. :P ROFLMAO

Ramsing - July 17, 2007 12:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 01:34 AM)
Ok i get that FAN was total asking for an but kicking, and dont get me wronge i dont personaly care who wins, i am to new to care, but it seems to me that most major alliances not allow tech raiding anyway it is destructive and wronge, so why dont the larger alliances stomp down on it, i mean was the YN5 really that bad?

Because it is generally accepted throughout the Cyberverse. If people are suggesting it isn't, chances are their opinions mean little if anything. The alliances that choose not to tech raid, either are letting tech raiding alliances continue to do so(hence not stepping on other alliances soverngty) , or are in the process of being ZIed. Tech raiding isn't necessarily destructive and there is nothing specifically wrong about it. The war against FAN had little to do with the YN5, otherwise, GOLD would be ZIed too.

Lord Sharpe - July 17, 2007 12:40 PM (GMT)
The 2 largest powers in CN, GPA and NPO, both do not permit tech-raiding. However, GPA is neutral, and NPO tends not to push things like that on others.

Bob Janova - July 17, 2007 01:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ramsing @ Jul 17 2007, 06:38 AM)
Tech raiding isn't necessarily destructive and there is nothing specifically wrong about it.

Right and wrong are not absolutes, so I'm not going there. But it is destructive; by definition for every 5 tech you raid you destroy 20 infra.

QUOTE (Sarriz)
lol i'm in a big alliance so i will be mean to someone asking a question

:((

Tushar Dhoot - July 17, 2007 02:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lord Sharpe @ Jul 17 2007, 06:40 AM)
The 2 largest powers in CN, GPA and NPO, both do not permit tech-raiding. However, GPA is neutral, and NPO tends not to push things like that on others.

Oh. I didn't know NPO didn't allow tech raiding. That makes things a bit more clear.

Bernard55 - July 17, 2007 02:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 03:12 AM)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192


And i see what you mean kinda, but at the same time, if just the 12 sationed allianes steped up then it would be blow way out of the water.

Now that is possibly the biggest noob mistake i have ever seen, and i've seen a lot.

Machiabelly - July 17, 2007 02:48 PM (GMT)
Yes, unfortunately, it is a mistake to ask a civilized question and expect responses other than being attacked. Sad state of affairs that.

I am pleased to see the number of people who did give an answer and good advice.

Oh, and might allows you to enforce your version of what is right, it does not make you right.


Hmmm OP has not been attacked, which makes me seem a bit sanctimonius now doesn't it?

Oh well...CN never ceases to surprise me.

Double-helix - July 17, 2007 03:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 02:12 AM)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192


And i see what you mean kinda, but at the same time, if just the 12 sationed allianes steped up then it would be blow way out of the water.

That is a very bad move :popcorn:

Agent Zero - July 17, 2007 04:27 PM (GMT)
Sorry WhiteWolf, asking normal questions to larger powers is taboo on these boards. If you complain about people who are stronger than you, you'll be attacked by them. Might is what makes the policies around here, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's damn sick of it.

crazysnowbdr - July 17, 2007 04:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 03:12 AM)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192


And i see what you mean kinda, but at the same time, if just the 12 sationed allianes steped up then it would be blow way out of the water.

I can't believe he fell for it. He needs to be ZI'd just for making me spit soda all over my screen.

By the way lil guys \m/ one of the 12 does believe in tech raiding but you will find that out soon enough

Liberal_Extinction - July 17, 2007 05:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (crazysnowbdr @ Jul 17 2007, 10:35 AM)
QUOTE (White Wolf @ Jul 17 2007, 03:12 AM)
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=153192


And i see what you mean kinda, but at the same time, if just the 12 sationed allianes steped up then it would be blow way out of the water.

I can't believe he fell for it. He needs to be ZI'd just for making me spit soda all over my screen.

By the way lil guys \m/ one of the 12 does believe in tech raiding but you will find that out soon enough

OOC: OMG I Laugharted when I read this!

Nice job Sarriz, please educate the uneducated, way to look out for your fellow CN'ers!!!

El Pilchinator - July 17, 2007 05:21 PM (GMT)
638.381 (My nation strength is: 23,079.016)


Every damn time.

Republic of Umar - July 17, 2007 05:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (El Pilchinator @ Jul 17 2007, 11:21 AM)
638.381 (My nation strength is: 23,079.016)


Every damn time.

ik, it really sucks doesnt it.

ChairmanHal - July 17, 2007 05:33 PM (GMT)
I might just adopt him as a pet...project.

I mean anyone could lay waste to him, but to turn him to \m/ would take...

...someone out to ruin the game. ROFLMAO

Sardonic - July 17, 2007 11:17 PM (GMT)
What is it with these tiny nations in no-name alliances whining about tech raiding that probably wouldn't hurt them at all if they kept their big mouthes shut?

Ninja R - July 17, 2007 11:31 PM (GMT)
Back to the original question: Yes, Yellow #5 was a bad thing when it involved attacking your allies.

But that wasn't the sole reason FAN is being taken out. Please refer yourself to the various war declarations and to the reason they were relieved of their position in the Initiative.

jsd2k - July 17, 2007 11:34 PM (GMT)
aww.. cmon guys.. dont be so mean to him he didn't know what he was doing, and just gave his nation link out.... cmon... show a little love... he has heart.

Soviet Canuckistan - July 18, 2007 12:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lord Sharpe @ Jul 17 2007, 08:40 AM)
The 2 largest powers in CN, GPA and NPO, both do not permit tech-raiding. However, GPA is neutral, and NPO tends not to push things like that on others.

Actually the #2 power allows tech-raiding :v:

TheBigBad - July 18, 2007 12:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Soviet Canuckistan @ Jul 17 2007, 06:27 PM)
Actually the #2 power allows tech-raiding :v:

Yes but nobody has heard of these so called :(( GOONS :(( . The goods news for him is he is to small for most nations to raid.

Dochartaigh - July 18, 2007 01:56 AM (GMT)
i will give you a hint white wolf. the attacks on FAN had nothing to do with YN5.

degen83 - July 18, 2007 06:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TheBigBad @ Jul 17 2007, 06:30 PM)
Yes but nobody has heard of these so called :(( GOONS :(( . The goods news for him is he is to small for most nations to raid.

Thats not the only good news for him.

http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance...dson%20Alliance

He's in a 5 member alliance.

Which makes him almost legal for us.

Almost.

Still, great job Sarriz. :J
You certainly don't see that every day :))

Sarriz - July 18, 2007 07:28 AM (GMT)
I do only what I can.

Hopefully someone will leave his alliance and our \m/ cadet's can have a good time :))

Titinius - July 18, 2007 10:34 AM (GMT)
638.381 (My nation strength is: 31,679.361) <_<
Maybe someone will leave his alliance t instead Sarriz.
That would allow us to hit.

BastardoFGod - July 18, 2007 11:45 AM (GMT)
I think it sucked real bad & no offense to GOLD but your guys were so god darn jumpy. I mean dear god change your neutral policy your gents were aching for a battle. Any yellow attack was taken as a war declaration on them. IT was a terrible idea. It pissed me off. The only reason I was told it worked in yellow was because of the shortage of unaligned nations in yellow. But all it created was a haven for unaligned nations. A mass exodus to yellow of unaligned nations.

Anyway this is not the first time we have seen these topics. Thats why theres such a ferocity towards them. Tech raiding for the alliances that conduct such activity, keep people occupied to the game that they play. Either its tech raiding or war city. Do us all a favor & stop making these topics.

Chief Savage Man - July 18, 2007 12:10 PM (GMT)
The Hadson Alliance



Serving 1 to 5 of 5 Nations


lucky bastard.

Lord Sharpe - July 18, 2007 12:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Soviet Canuckistan @ Jul 17 2007, 06:27 PM)
Actually the #2 power allows tech-raiding  :v:

In my defense, I still consider :(( GOONS :(( a substandard alliance.
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Actually, I just forgot you guys took #2. Sorry <valentine>

Pironious - July 18, 2007 12:24 PM (GMT)
<sadno> This thread is filled with cruel nasty bevahious by \m/, such things should not go unpunished in the cyberverse. They are nothing but a bunch of thugs ruining the game :((

:awesome: And I wouldn't have them any other way. \m/ >_< \m/

Ramsing - July 18, 2007 01:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (BastardoFGod @ Jul 18 2007, 05:45 AM)
I think it sucked real bad & no offense to GOLD but your guys were so god darn jumpy. I mean dear god change your neutral policy your gents were aching for a battle. Any yellow attack was taken as a war declaration on them. IT was a terrible idea. It pissed me off. The only reason I was told it worked in yellow was because of the shortage of unaligned nations in yellow. But all it created was a haven for unaligned nations. A mass exodus to yellow of unaligned nations.

That was the point-creating a larger trade group. The only problem being that it was poorly executed with regards to attacking your own allies. Had there been more self-control YN5 might've still been around.

Also @ Bob Jenova- Tech raiding takes up to 40 infra when done well. That really isn't that much when you consider most nations should be making anywhere from 40-60 infra per day.

FlipWich - July 18, 2007 02:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bob Janova @ Jul 17 2007, 09:29 AM)
Right and wrong are not absolutes, so I'm not going there. But it is destructive; by definition for every 5 tech you raid you destroy 20 infra.

QUOTE (Sarriz)
lol i'm in a big alliance so i will be mean to someone asking a question

:((

Which is a day of rebuilding. Once they pull out of anarchy from the back-collection, they will be perfectly fine.

New Reverie - July 18, 2007 03:14 PM (GMT)
There was a time when tech raiding and unnessesary wars were frowned upon by most alliances. That is why the older alliances in this game do not allow tech raiding. Those that tech raided were generally unallied and worked alone, tech pirates or mercenaries of sorts.

The formation of major power blocks changed this. Many 'new' alliances joined these power blocks and began to tech raid. With their allies to back them up if nessesary, these alliances were free to attack unallied nations with no danger. The former lone tech raiders flocked to these alliances and gave them the power they have today.

It is of my opinion that without the formation of MADP power blocks like GUARD (not saying GUARD tech raids), the Axis of Awsome, and later the World Unity Treaty, that many of large tech raiding alliances would never have formed, simply because the nature of their actions would result in their destruction during their formation.

chinatownbus - July 18, 2007 03:30 PM (GMT)
Why is it such a mistake for him to give out his nation link?

His forum name is his nation name, if you did a search for it you would've found his nation anyway...

am i missing something here? <slap>




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