The history of Confundia

I'll try to work this out piece by piece and I don't have anything set in stone so feel free to express your ideas. Since we so far don't have a religion to base our years on I'll write the dates in AC (what a coincidence ) meaning After Confundia, starting with the year the country was founded (which is about two hundred years before the present.

AC 1:
Led by Christof de Blance through a long and bloody war Confundia finally broke free from the Empire and established themselves as a sovereign nation led by king Cristof the first.

AC 13:
King Cristof I dies in battle and is replaced by his twelve year old son Marco.

AC 2-20
The war against the Empire continued for eighteen years before they finally ceased their efforts to reclaim Confundia. The wars result in horrible starvation among the people and diseases claim numerous lives as well.

AC 32:
Thanks to a few years of favorable weather the nation-wide famine is finally put to an end.

AC 54:
King Marco I dies of an unknown illness and his son takes the throne as king Cristof II.

AC 72:
Civil war breaks out in Confundia as a faction led by a man claiming to be an unknown son of king Marco try to claim the throne.

AC 74:
The civil wars end when the royal forces wipe out the last remains of the insurgents.

AC 79:
Cristof II, now forty-five years old and quite sick, resigns from the thrown in favor of his son-in-law, who becomes king Rovan I.

To be continued...

Not bad. Though do we have to have had a war-orientated founding. Why not a penal colony (no bias, honestly )?

oh yeah, no bias there at all

looks good to me though.

This is actually a highly relevant issue. Some real-world countries are long-standing monarchies with a long tradition of class issues (eg. the UK), some are old democracies still stuck with the stuff that the early thinkers thought should be unchangable (like the American voting system), some nations have a history of dictatorship and are not used to having freedom (eg. Russia), some can't cope with the sudden emergence of raw capitalism (most of the former East Block), etc.

The history of Confundia can have some relevance for where Confundia is today. For example, it's silly to have parties that crave more security measures if there isn't a threat.

So, what with the budding parties we have at the moment (two of which are arguing for something similar to a police state, one through literal control, the other through getting rid of anyone who doesn't want to conform*), then a fairly conflict-strewn history, filled with outside predations and possibly civil unrest would fit.

Like we have, actually. All seems pretty good to me.


*yes, that is the SEC. Propaganda will fill later posts, I promise

Yes, but there mustn't be any connections to the real world. So, for instance, if the issue is terrorism, it should be some kind of political terrorism rather than religious terrorism. As soon as we let the real world get to us, no one can stick to his or her (hopefully fictitious) role. And the more imaginative we can be overall to create issues that Confundia is troubled with, the better the game will be.

Well we've already decided on ficticious religions, in order to avoid conflict.

THough I definitely agree. We shouldn't take things out of game and apply them to real world issues. We're all here for a good time, not to fight over views and beliefs. I don't think we should rule out all connections to the real world, or this would become too fantasy just remember not to take it out of context.

You have a point there. Although, we might need to decide on religion in Confundia as a whole (as in, in the RPG as well as the setting). Are we going to include it? If so, is it all fictional? Religion, like it or not, plays a big part in national and international politics, and if we include real religions in this, then we run the risk of people's personal opinions clashing with their RPG personas, and maybe even sparking arguments.



I'm all for distancing this quite a lot from the real world. It's set in the near future, in a world that is very similar. Why not make it slightly more different? If we go down that route, I'd be willing to work up a brief world history through the ages, and possibly a more elaborate history on important events.

Types of terrorism:
-Leftist
-Rightist
-Enthnonationalist/separatist
-"Sacred"/Religious

Granted, there is a lot of overlap. "Sacred" terrorism is more common in modern times, however, it is often paired with political aims. I think any of these types would be interesting to see in the game. However, all of these types of terrorism exist in the real world.

Since Confundia is a ficticious world, I don't think any of us are going to get too heated about whatever goes on there. Or at least I hope not. All of us should realize Confundia is a game, and it shouldn't be taken too seriously. Excluding an activity or occurance from the game simply because it has parallels to the real world could make things kinda boring. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be imaginative, but as long as we have ficticious occurances in a ficticious world, I don't think real world connections will be a big deal.

But, I could most certainly be naive in that respect.

Didn't someone volounteer to work on religions? I'll have to check on that. Anyway, we'll go with fictional religions.

You might be interested to know that I'm planning at least one active terrorist group in Confundia that might show up later.

Rekluse: You'd be surprised how touchy people can get over these things (and I speak from personal experience here). I'm all for taking this as they are meant to be - a fictional game that aims to present as 'real' and full an image as possible. But some people get touchy over issues like religion.

Another major issue I thought of is that if our nation is set near future, then the equivalent time period for the creation of Confundia's monarchy would be in the 1800's. It's unlikely that people would accept a new monarchy during this time period, so perhaps we need to look at going back another couple hundred years.

I realize that. Everything I said was under the impression fictional religions would be created. I understand how including real religions would be a problem...but in terms of having religious terrorism (with fictional religions), I don't think that's an issue. Do you?

Monarchies still cropped up during the 19th century. Greece fought an independence war and became a monarchy early in the century. Belgium followed suit in 1836. Egypt achieved semi-independence as a semi monarchy and Tunisia attempted unsuccessfully to do the same. Mexico briefly lost it's independence and was reintegrated into the Hapsburg domains, though that's probably the opposite of what we want. Brazil flirted with monarchy as late as the 1870's I think. Norway achieved independence peacefully in 1905 and elected Haakon 7 as king and some arab nations became monarchies when they were given independence after WWII. As late as the '60s, the Shah, a monarch, rose to the throne of Iran.

The problem with fictitious religions is that you can't come up with one that is completely original (Well, I can't). Some people will always take offence no matter what. IMO the best thing would be to include religion in the sense of their being religious people, but never give any details of specific religions.

Or go with Christianity, I've always had the impression that they're more lax about caricatures of themselves than other religions tend to be.

Ash