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Annemarie	Posted: 1 Apr 2011, 18:04
It's not about the books anymore. Group: Detectives Posts: 646 Member No.: 3 Joined: 29-March 11	PODEMOS HABLAR DE LO EPICO QUE ES ESTE EPISODIO?! Tengo ganas de verlo de nuevo así que más tarde voy a escribir un long ass post, prepárense Por cierto, yo ~~necesito~~ quiero ver este besooo! Es diferente al que salió en tele.

MartukaBeckett	Posted: 1 Apr 2011, 19:14
It's not about the books anymore. Group: Detectives Posts: 516 Member No.: 4 Joined: 29-March 11	OMG! DE DONDE HA SALIDO ESE BESO?????????????????? Lo necesito en mi vida ya

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Posted: 1 Apr 2011, 19:55

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QUOTE (MartukaBeckett @ 1 Apr 2011, 18:14)

OMG! DE DONDE HA SALIDO ESE BESO??????????????????

Lo necesito en mi vida ya

En la promo de Lucky Stiff dicen que el video está en la página de ABC pero no lo encuentro por ningún lado

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k2t7P9yruM[/YOUTUBE]
QUIERO VERLO!!

Luly1391	Posted: 3 Apr 2011, 21:32
I'm so sorry Castle. I'm so sorry. Group: Sospechosos Posts: 597 Member No.: 34 Joined: 2-April 11	Anne! OMG! OMG! OMG! Vos querés matarnooss??!!! Necesito ver ese video pero YAA!!! Voy a morir.

errauskine	Posted: 10 Apr 2011, 10:47
You smell like cherries. Group: Sospechosos Posts: 76 Member No.: 29 Joined: 2-April 11	OMG!! Ese beso Será de la primera grabación de la escena o de la segunda vez que lo hicieron... Qué decir de este capítulo, lo adore desde la primera escena hasta la última, ya sólo con la música del principio mi corazón se empieza a acelerar.

buffymak	Posted: 14 Apr 2011, 12:44
Like it or not I'm your plucky sidekick. Group: Escritores Posts: 171 Member No.: 8 Joined: 30-March 11	OMG! El beso es taaaaan perfecto,sabían que terminarían besándose pero no así,no me lo esperaba,lo mejor no es que Castle la bese,es que ella responda El capítulo es espectacular,está plagado de momentos,yo me quedo con que 1º Beckett vaya a pedir a Castle que la acompañe,precioso no lo siguiente Cuando Matha habla con Castle y él le dice It's not about the books anymore no hay mucho más que añadir a eso. Y el final,con ese Always

Annemarie	Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 04:05
It's not about the books anymore. Group: Detectives Posts: 646 Member No.: 3 Joined: 29-March 11	Este episodio todavía me emociona! Hoy lo repitieron y yo sentí que era la primera vez que lo veía jaja esto es buena TV. No puedo explicar lo que siento cuando veo a Ryan y a Esposito aguantando la tortura por Beckett. Es tan... no sé pero it warms my heart. Y omg el beso en TV se ve TAN BIEN! Si pudiera lo repetiría una y otra vez.

LauraPalmer	Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 16:52
Chief Sexecutive Officer Group: Detectives Posts: 1.012 Member No.: 2 Joined: 29-March 11	LA PERFECCIÓN EXISTE, Y SE LLAMA KNOCKDOWN. No puedo comentar este episodio con palabras porque se me queda corto. Hay episodios perfectos y después va este. Es que TODAS las escenas son perfectas no excluyo ninguna. - El previously, que ya cuando comienza ves lo que se te avecina... - Beckett haciendo ejercicio (me encantó ese pequeño detalle) y recibiendo la llamada, y yendo a buscar a Castle enseguida... fue lo primero que hizo, ohhh! - La escena con Raglan, "he's someone I trust", y Raglan, que lo único que estás pensando es "deja de hablar del café y cuéntanos todo lo que sepas". Cómo enseguida Beckett se pone al control de la situación, eso ME ENCANTA. Acaban de matar a la persona que podría aportar luz sobre el caso de su madre pero ella, toda entera, llama para avisar de que ha habido un homicidio. - Ryan y Esposito cubriendo a Kate con Montgomery y él haciendo que no se entera... es tan genial. - Castle diciéndole a Beckett que creía que le dispararon a él, y el "not a chance", desde esta escena y durante todo el episodio Castle está serio y deja de lado sus bromas. - Todas las expresiones faciales de Stana/Beckett durante el episodio, sobre todo cuando están interrogando a la gente, son increíbles. - La escena con Vulcan Simmons, el actor lo hace muy bien, porque la pobre Beckett demasiado aguantó, soy yo y le estampo contra el espejo nada más empezar. Esa escena es impresionante. Y Ryan y Esposito corriendo a parar a Beckett. - Montgomery de nuevo genial hablando con Beckett y sacándola del caso. Desgraciadamente Montgomery llevaba razón al decir que estaba provocándola y ella cedió pero creo que no sería humana si no lo hubiera hecho. Sacándola del caso hizo lo correcto y amo a Montgomery en escenas como esta. - La escena con Martha y Castle es una de mis favoritas del episodio (aparte de las típicas). El momento en que Castle POR FIN admite que no es sólo por los libros, que tiene algo más por lo que ir cada día a la comisaría. Me parece un paso tan importante para ellos dos, aunque Beckett no esté presente en esta escena es una de las escenas más importantes para ellos dos. Y además me encanta también Martha, que habla tan cariñosamente a Castle como creo que nunca hizo (aparte de los chistes que siempre se traen) y le dice que piense en cómo quiere él en Alexis... es genial. - Ryan y Esposito poniendo todas sus fuerzas especialmente en este caso para intentar solucionarlo por ella... - Castle llevando flores a Beckett (it's really sweet), es tan genial, y viniendo con toda la historia pensada, que al pobre no le sirve de nada porque resulta que Beckett ya lo tenía todo controlado con su ventana, esa toma me parece genial, cuando descubre todo. Y Castle preguntándole si Josh lo sabe, la carita que pone Beckett, y luego la carita que pone él cuando le dice que lo hizo cuando estaba en los Hamptons... - Hasta una de las escenas más triviales del episodio como es la de la chica que no deja de marear a Esposito y Ryan con sus historias aburridas de chicos me hace reir muchísimo, la cara que ponen ambos de aburrimiento y el gesto que le hace Esposito a Ryan como diciendo "pero no le des más conversación!!". - Las fotos de Beckett de jovencita, es que si este episodio no era lo suficiente original y perfecto, van y sacan fotos de ella de joven que es algo que saben que a los fans nos encanta ver! Y sin resultar forzado. - Me encanta cómo entre los dos dan con lo del callejón, todo el proceso. - Ryan y Esposito interrogando al niño rico y tonto, me encanta cómo le vacilan. Me encanta que ellos dos nos hacen reir en medio de episodios con tanta tensión. - Y llegamos al "Why do you keep coming back, Rick?". Castle no contesta, es todo tan perfecto. "Partner, then", me encanta esa parte donde está tan decidido a seguir. - El detalle de que cuenten que Johanna contestó a todas las cartas que le llegaban me encanta, es tan Kate Beckett. - La forma en que Ryan y Esposito aguantan toda la tortura por Beckett, me da tanta penita cuando meten a Ryan en el hielo, y me da risa cuando Esposito dice lo de "me and your mom". - Y la escena del coche y las "dumb ideas", cuando vi por primera vez esto fue como "y aquí viene el beso", cada vez que lo veo pienso lo mismo. - EL BESO, lo decidido que va Castle a besarla, cómo le pone la mano en el brazo, cuando Beckett se separa como pensando "pero qué haces" pero vuelve a él, el hecho de que sean dos besos y el segundo se lo de Beckett a él, cómo mientras le besa no deja de quitarle el ojo al otro, el ruidito que hace Beckett (undercover kiss, y una leche), cómo le pega al otro, pero lo mejor de todo, la cara que pone Beckett justo después de que Castle diga "that was amazing!", AMO eso. - Y luego, Castle salvándole la vida, otra vez, y el "never better"... - La escena de la ambulancia creo que es más importante aún para ambos que el beso en sí, es cuando se dan cuenta de todo lo que pasaron juntos y que Castle le diga que siempre estará ahí. Además me encanta la forma en que Beckett le coloca la venda tan cuidadosamente y además mete el tono gracioso con lo de Chuck Norris y lo del orgullo de Ryan y Esposito xD - Y el "week after week" es que me deja sin palabras. Y que Lockwood no diga ni una palabra lo hace aún más frío. Stana está especialmente guapa aquí, no sé si lo hicieron adrede o fue simple casualidad pero la veo mucho más impresionante. Pero aquí se ve tanto cómo todos los personajes son tan importantes para la trama, para Beckett y para la historia de la madre de Beckett... todos tienen algo importante que aportar, Montgomery en este episodio me encanta, Ryan y Esposito están adorables al máximo, Castle y Beckett, Martha... Alexis y Lanie no salieron, realmente que ellas aparecieran en este episodio no venía a cuento, Alexis porque no hace falta y Lanie porque realmente no hay análisis forense que realizar, me parece bien que sólo se centraran en lo que tenían que centrarse y dedicaran los 42 minutos del episodio en el caso. Y me encantó que en el 1x05 mencionaran a Raglan para ahora retomar el tema, estas son las típicas cosas que la gente no tiene paciencia pero cuando lo nombraron fue por algo. Vaya análisis hice, sorry por el rollo, pero este episodio tiene tantas cosas destacables. Si algo me fastidió de ponerme al día tan tarde con esta serie fue no poder haber vivido este episodio en su momento, tuvo que ser increíble. Así que ayer lo repitieron y aproveché para verlo online y Anne me encantó comentarlo contigo fue lo mejor del episodio!

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Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 22:04

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QUOTE (LauraPalmer @ 26 Apr 2011, 17:52)

el segundo se lo de Beckett a él, cómo mientras le besa no deja de quitarle el ojo al otro, el ruidito que hace Beckett (undercover kiss, y una leche)

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Posted: 27 Apr 2011, 14:31

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QUOTE (Annemarie @ 1 Apr 2011, 20:55)

En la promo de Lucky Stiff dicen que el video está en la página de ABC pero no lo encuentro por ningún lado

He hecho un repaso exhaustivo y yo tampoco lo encuentro, sólo viene el beso original del episodio. En realidad me parece que en el clip no es que digan que hay un beso nuevo pero es que sí que es verdad que es nuevo!

Ahora yo también quiero verlooooooo

MartukaBeckett

Posted: 27 Apr 2011, 15:25

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QUOTE (LauraPalmer @ 27 Apr 2011, 15:31)

QUOTE (Annemarie @ 1 Apr 2011, 20:55)

En la promo de Lucky Stiff dicen que el video está en la página de ABC pero no lo encuentro por ningún lado

A lo mejor lo sacan este verano. Lo digo porque en el verano entre la 4ª temporada y la 5ª de Grey's, sacaron el beso de la casa de las velas sin música y sin nada y no tenía nada que ver con el que se vió en la serie. Así que igual nuestros amigos de ABC nos hacen un regalito este verano

Cindirella

Posted: 30 May 2011, 21:29

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Bueno no voy agregar xq ya todo esta comentado .

Pero SIMPLEMENTE PERFECTOOOOO de principio a fin.La escena del beso no me canso de verla

.Es q fue tan inesperado.

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pero lo mejor de todo, la cara que pone Beckett justo después de que Castle diga "that was amazing!", AMO eso.

Amoooooo la cara de beckett

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Posted: 1 Nov 2011, 19:34

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Recuerdo haber leído esto hace muchísimo tiempo, pero era necesario re-postearlo ahora que estamos con estos capítulos tan increíbles en la 4ta...
La perspectiva de AWM no ha cambiado, ha sido bastante fiel con el storytelling y me parece fantástico...
Además, hay un pedazo que me parece taaaaan cierto, ¿qué hará Kate después de encontrar al asesino de su mamá? ¿Qué hará con su vida? ¿Seguirá siendo policia?

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'Castle': Writers Andrew Marlowe and Will Beall dish on the big kiss and what's next -- EXCLUSIVE
SPOILER ALERT: If you haven’t seen tonight’s episode of Castle, do not read the Q&A below. You’ve been warned.

Three-and-a-half seasons of build up led to tonight’s heart-tugging episode of Castle, in which Beckett and her handsome devil of a partner sealed the deal in an alley — as part of a decoy. Well, at least it started off that way. As you’ll read in my interview with episode writer Will Beall (who recently signed on to pen the new Lethal Weapon movie) and creator/writer Andrew Marlowe, the repercussions of the pair’s long-awaited smooch will be just as real as that second kiss was. (Cheers here.) Read below for more on this highly anticipated episode (that I know you’re already re-watching) and sound off below.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Now that it’s aired, how do y’all feel about the episode?
ANDREW MARLOWE: Speaking for me, I’m not feeling nervous about the episode. I think Will did a tremendous job scripting it. We feel that we’re giving the audience what they want from the Castle/Beckett relationship without pushing the relationship too far, too quickly. Certainly you know the circumstances of the kiss having seen it, but what was important to us was that both characters react to it. You know, it starts off as a diversion, but you can see in the midst of it, it becomes real and both of them have to wrestle with their emotions afterward. So we don’t feel like we’re cheating the audience or like it’s a wink like we’ve seen on other TV shows. We feel like the audience will understand that both of these people have to wrestle with the consequences afterwards. So I think that was what Will’s intention was. Do you want to jump in Will?
WILL BEALL: We’re really happy with the way the kiss turned out. And there are other aspects of the episode I’m really pleased with too.
AM: We think that we had a really great opportunity with this also to develop the Beckett’s mother’s murder story, and touch on a deeper conspiracy that will be satisfying to the audience in that they’ll get some answers, but those answers lead to more questions. That’s the best kind of storytelling for this kind of episodic TV, where you get some sort of resolution and you still have some stuff to look forward to.

Exactly. So you can confirm that the second kiss we saw was, in fact, not a decoy?
AM: Yeah. Absolutely. They get caught up in the midst of it and you can see when they both pull away. They both have to process what happened — it’s all over their faces.

They did such a great job with that scene.
WB: Yeah. They were fantastic.
AM: And then the escalation of it, where you go right from that to Beckett being in danger and Castle having to do something extraordinary to save her. The depth of his emotion when he starts beating up on the bad guy — I think everybody in the audience will get what they’re silently communicating to each other. It’s an extension of what they’ve been communicating to each other the whole time.

That was another great moment in the episode.
WB: I feel like early in the episode, there’s a great scene where Martha [Rodgers] sort of takes Castle to task and asks a question that everybody wants answered. And even though our characters never answer it directly, that’s one of the ways Castle — there’s something declarative about that act of courage that I think is a way of answering the question that everybody in the audience has been asking in some way for a couple of years.
AM: I think we’re at the point in the series — we’re approaching 50 episodes — where we have to get a little more insight into where Castle’s behavior is coming from and why he spends all this time down at the station. I think our loyal, core audience has that understanding. These two people are doing a dance. But to have Castle acknowledge it, I think, even if they have the same relationship going forward, it puts it on a whole new level. There’s a lot of tension.

How is that going to play out in the next few episodes?
AM: I think now that we’ve touched on it, it’s inevitable that our fans will approach the material feeling that they’re trying to wrestle with their emotions. Beckett is currently in a relationship and how does she process that? How does she feel about that? And Castle is looking for a relationship, but he knows Beckett is in a relationship. So we sort of play with that idea, and as we come into our sweeps episode, we play with it even more as we get into the explosive two-parter at the end of February. It’s something we continue to play with, but I think the recognition between the two characters — that there is this thing between them — it’s something they’ve tried to deny for a number of episodes. Now, they no longer can deny it and they have to figure out what they’re going to do about it, whether they’re too scared to do something about it, what other obstacles are out there. That’s all part of great relationship storytelling.

Well, we took three-and-a-half seasons to get a kiss. So, they’ll be in bed in the season 7 finale?
AM: By the end of season 7, and the TV gods allow us to get there, we know we have to continue to evolve the storytelling. I think the greatest fear someone has in my position is that if you don’t capitalize on the relationship, the characters can start to feel like brother and sister — the romantic tension goes away. For us, we know we have to try to keep that romantic tension there. We also know that we have to satisfy the audience from time to time. I think there are enough complexities in the human relationship that people don’t really live happily ever after. There’s a hell of a lot of storytelling after that so we will take our time, pace ourselves but also be true to these characters and honest about their emotions.
Speaking of emotions, Beckett is coming closer and closer to solving her mom’s murder. As she finds closure there, how is that going to affect her relationship with Castle? They seem to correspond…
WB: Yeah. I definitely think there’s a correlation. It’s that aspect of their partnership and the show will sort of come to a head in the season finale.
AM: One of the things Will has done extraordinarily well for the show is developing all their guys as really great cops, but hand-in-hand with developing the Castle/Beckett relationship. Our most significant episode before this one was last season’s “Sucker Punch” that Will wrote. And the very last scene, after Coonan is shot and killed in the precinct, there’s a nice moment Beckett accepts Castle as being her partner. I think the vulnerability and depth of emotion that Beckett has for this case allows her to recognize Castle’s genuine nature. As we touch on this case, this is Castle at his best. He’s not a jackass, he’s not poking too deeply because he knows how sensitive this area is. In a lot of cases, this case draws out the best in Castle at the time when Beckett is most vulnerable.

So is it safe to say that as this case rolls toward resolution, that she’s going to be more free to move on in other aspects of her life? If you know what I mean…
AM: I think that’s going to be complicated. When you’ve had so much of your life defined by a particular choice in your life in response to a moment, I think the moment she has resolution in this, it’s going to challenge her as to who she actually she is. I think there’s a lot of interesting storytelling to come after it. I don’t think it’s as simple as “Now I can move on.” I think she has to wrestle with who she is as a cop, why she’s doing what she’s doing. The strength of Beckett is that she’s always the one who carries the torch for the victim because she knows what that’s like. She’s been on the other side. So once she has resolution there, what happens to her passion? I think that there’s some real identity issues that once we get to the resolution in this story, that she’ll have to wrestle with. But when we get to a resolution with this story is a question for another day.

Tell me about the decision to let Ryan and Esposito really take the heavy weight of this case in a very Castle/Beckett-centered episode. I thought that was interesting.
WB: Part of it was I wanted to see Ryan and Esposito exercise in a way we haven’t really seen before. And the case, obviously, her mother’s case exercises Beckett and Castle in a different way. In some ways, I think one of the most interesting aspects of her mother’s murder is, like you said, is the way it acts on their relationship. That was something I wanted to explore between Castle and Beckett and that gives Ryan and Esposito to carry some of the procedural weight.
Speaking of that exploration, I’m curious about the decision to make the kiss a decoy. Were there ever discussions about making it straightforward and traditionally romantic?
AM: We always like things with a twist. The thing about Castle and Beckett’s relationship is that it’s always surprising and always seems to sneak up on them when they’re not looking. And so to go into something like this, which is something they’ve been denying, and put them in a position where they’re forced to embrace it and then have that moment where they sink into it; it felt like the most authentic version of their relationship. For us to build up to that, where it was a pure, straightforward, romantic out-and-out relationship kiss, carried with it too many consequences in terms of a change in storytelling. Like I said, I think the audience will see it as the next step in the relationship because they both acknowledged what it meant to them in their reactions afterwards. It’s not like they move on from it. It’s a real moment for them. It starts as one thing and ends with another. You see that they’re both wrestling with it, even in that scene of the aftermath in the ambulance where she’s adjusting his bandages. There’s a moment there where they’re back on either side of the divide and pining and trying to figure out what this means to them. But there’s also that unspoken undercurrent that they’re dealing with that I think ends the episode on a really delicious note.

Will it become spoken any time before the end of the season?
AM: It remains to be seen at what level this becomes spoken. Beckett plays her cards very close to her vest, and this is such important territory to the Castle character that he’s not going to tease her about it because then he’s going to know he’s giving away everything it meant. So, yes, we will be dealing with emotional aftermath and how they feel about each other as we roll toward the conclusion of the season. I don’t know if they’re going to address it directly. They may. There are a couple of key episodes in their relationship that we’re working on and breaking right now. But it’s certainly going to form the relationship as we move forward.

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