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Treaty brokered, Alpharius goes Eldar!
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So I am sitting here, painting Morgosis the former venerable dreadnought with about 2000 pts of csm (mostly unpainted) around me and I am thinking about kicking off a small Eldar force (around 750 pts) as well. With the eldar I really love the models, especially the Striking Scorpions) but then I read that they are yet another underdog in the realm of wh40k gaming.
Anyone have any experience with this manipulating race? I plan to run them on foot with dire avengers, scorpions and dragon. Probably gonna use some walkers too though that reminds undecided as of yet.
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Been playing them quite recently in fact. The Eldar codex suffers from being out-dated, mostly with weak psychic powers, over costed units and some wargear issues. If you're running them on foot, the an Avatar is a must, along with Eldrad (much better costsed compared to a 'standard' farseer). I quite like Wraithlords too in a foot list. However, you'll be out manouvered quite a lot, and they're not numerous enough to use as a horde in waves of attack. Fire dragons on foot will suffer from being outmanouvered certainly, so you'll need to think about a defnsive set up for most games. They can still be fun to play, but be prepared to loose more games than you win, especially without vehicles.
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Well I went down and bought:
1 Eldrad 10 dire avengers 6 scorpions 6 fire dragons
And now I am thinking about what to add to my footsloggers. Already on the list are: 10 dire avengers more 5 dark reapers
But what would be better to help these poor folks walk across the field; A wraith lord or a pair of war war walkers?
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| QUOTE (WarpWhisperer @ Apr 19 2012, 10:58 AM) | | ... but I understand the general gist is that they're better outflanking; i.e. not beinging targets from the beginning of the game. They don't have the staying power that a wraithlord has, although he's still vulnerable to high strength/lop AP shots. |
Nonono. War Walkers should be deployed within Guide-range of your Farseer/Eldrad to compensate for that BS3. Plus, gear them with scatter lasers. A squadron of three so armed puts out 24 S6 shots that can get rerolls to hit (Guide) and rerolls to wound (Doom).
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So I have bought figures to fill out a 1000pts army. It probably don't be varied nor that difficult to defeat but hopefully I'll be fun
Here what I have:
Avatar, Eldrad, 6 scorps incl. Exarch, 6 Fire dragons incl. exarch, 5 dark reapers incl exarch, 20 dire avengers incl 2 exarchs and a wraith lord.
I am probably gonna fit the wraith lord with a missile launcher and scatter laser as I'll be my main AT.
Any suggestions for a 1000pts out of this? I have been running some numbers already but not sure if it'll work:
Avatar Eldrad 5 scorps incl. ex with claw and shadow strike 10 dire incl. ex with two sc and blade storm 7 dire incl. ex with two sc and blade storm 3 dark reapers Wraithlord w/ 2 flamers, missile launcher and scatter laser
1000pt on the nose
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Also, consider taking the power weapon and shimmer shield for at least one of your Avenger squads. That 5+ I doesn't sound so impressive, I know, but here's the thing. Combined with rerolls from Fortune (effectively making your 5+ into a 4+) and Defend (enemies at -1 Attack), you have a decent tarpit unit. Terminators especially hate getting stuck in with this build, since they rely on small numbers of powerful attacks.
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| QUOTE (AL-PiXeL01 @ Apr 20 2012, 08:44 PM) | So I have bought figures to fill out a 1000pts army. It probably don't be varied nor that difficult to defeat but hopefully I'll be fun
Here what I have:
Avatar, Eldrad, 6 scorps incl. Exarch, 6 Fire dragons incl. exarch, 5 dark reapers incl exarch, 20 dire avengers incl 2 exarchs and a wraith lord.
I am probably gonna fit the wraith lord with a missile launcher and scatter laser as I'll be my main AT.
Any suggestions for a 1000pts out of this? I have been running some numbers already but not sure if it'll work:
Avatar Eldrad 5 scorps incl. ex with claw and shadow strike 10 dire incl. ex with two sc and blade storm 7 dire incl. ex with two sc and blade storm 3 dark reapers Wraithlord w/ 2 flamers, missile launcher and scatter laser
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So something like would be better than?
Avatar Elders 5 scorpions w/ exarch and claw 8 dire avengers w/ exarch with 2 scs and blade storm 8 dire avengers w/ exarch with shield and defend 3 dark reapers w/ exarch with crack shot Wraithlord w/ scatter laser and missile launcher
1000 pts
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Yeah, that's not too bad. I might look at adding an extra Reaper if you can, or maybe taking Fast instead of Crack Shot to help make up the short fall in their shooting attacks.
And when using Eldrad, remember one key point: he can use three powers a turn, and two of them CAN be the same power. So if someone Hoods you, you can do it again.
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Poor Dire Avengers. Their numbers becomes fewer and fewer, but it is either that or cutting away my scorpions.
Avatar Eldrad 5 scorpions w/ exarch, biting blade 8 dire avengers w/ exarch with 2 scs and blade storm 7 dire avengers w/ exarch with shield and defend 3 dark reapers w/ exarch with crack shot and fast shot Wraithlord w/ scatter laser and missile launcher
Edit: Eldrad got a name change, curse autocorrection on smartphones.
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