The Seperation of Daemons, Mortal and Beasts, What do you think?

[Demagorgon]

The most recent army book save them as completely seperate armies with no real interaction between the three. I know it was ages ago now but I was pretty inconvenienced at the time as I'd just started putting together my plans for a Chaos army and wanted a Mortal one but with random demons in just because I like the models. I had the colour scheme all planned out and everything. :D

I then got distracted by skaven and uni and left the hobby for a while, but now I've come back and am revising my army list. So I'm jsut wondering - did the division make any difference in the end? What do you think?

[blader4411]

I prefer the division personally, as it finally allowed me to build an army with just one component, as I tend to be distracted a lot (painted up mortals, then liked the daemons, so had to get greater daemon, then wanted mortals again etc...)

So I personally don't mind the changes.

[Skaven Lord Vinshqueek]

Having faced the Chaos army both in 6th and 7th edition, I have to say that (from an opponent's point of view) I like the seperation of the three. The reason for this is that people tended to pick 'the best of both worlds' (sort to speak of), giving for some truely nasty armylists that could be build... Then again, it did have a lot more variation, whereas Warriors of Chaos right now appears to be an army of footsloggers, horse riders and, well, that's about it. No shooting. No/ little skirmishing. Looking at that, I am still somewhat uncertain whether (from a gamer's point of view) the decision was that well.

Of course, don't get me started on the 'hippie commune' image the Chaos Wastes have with the background from the new book, cause that one is downright absurd!

Greetz

[The Eye]

Excellent thread ... ... ...

I've had more Chaos armies than all my other Fantasy armies combined, which is saying something. My first Chaos army was of the God of Interior Designers & Colourists (I refuse to dignify the petty puppet gods any more by actually naming them) and featured Mortal characters & Warriors, Chaos Harpies (which apparently no longer fly past the Druchii border), Minotaurs (pink skinned & blonde furred), & Daemonettes.

I sold that army when I was prevented from legally fielding those units together by the publication of yet another version of the army book.

There are very valid commercial reasons for not allowing the armies to be combined - GW getting to sell three Chaos Army books instead of one being the most obvious. But the downside is that Chaos is far more bland than it used to be in the good old days of Divine Animosity*.

* For those not lucky enough to have had to work around this rule, it meant that Chaos Undecided armies which included the children & followers of differing gods faced a very real possibility that their troops would lose the plot in any given turn & attack the followers of rival 'allied' gods instead of whatever enemies were lined up opposing us. The Chaos gods were paired, so that - for we enlightened followers of the Thinking God - there was more chance of our minions attacking those of the Divine Colostomy Bag than those of the God of Interior Designers & Colourists or the Angry God (although there was some chance of our lot doing their plodding pets at any given time as well), and those latter two were similarly paired off together as chosen foes.

This tied in brilliantly with the fluff for Chaos, which has always maintained the idea that the only thing preventing Chaos from sweeping throughout the Warhammer World (/ 40k Galaxy) are the deep, bitter and eternal struggles between the Fell Powers themselves. In gaming terms, it meant that the uber-combo armies which 'smart' (read: "shallow pragmatic") players field in these days of Codex Genericus to secure victories in either game were simply neither viable nor even remotely reliable.

Although they were self destructively hilarious!

[/sermonising digression]

Getting back somewhat close to this thread's main theme : as a gamer, I would prefer one bigger & more expansive - and thus inevitably far more expensive - army book which allowed me the option to field armies of either purely Warriors/ Daemons/ & or Beastie Boys rather than the strange & complicated arrangement of today (where even the Chaos specific lores of magic are not consistant). I believe that this would once more allow Chaos armies to be rich & varied, & would ramp up the sales of Chaos miniatures even further than where they are today.

And Divine Animosity should return as well!!!

As well as Chaos Harpies!!!

(Thoughts for the Thinking God ... ... ...)

[Tezdal]

I really don't like the split, Chaos seems blander now without all the options in one army. Sure the old way got abused sometimes, but nowdays WOC seem to be bland and 1d.