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Dwarrowdelf, RESOLVED| magpie |
Posted: Feb 26 2006, 04:24 AM
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RESOLVED in final post
Dwarrowdelf On the FOTR CD: Track 12, A Journey in the Dark On the CR-FOTR: Disc 2, Track 14, Balin's Tomb I don't know if these voices are singing lyrics or just providing a 'ahhh' background. If they're singing lyrics, are they from Durin's Song? Durin's Song Durin ku bin-amrad Ugmal sullu addad Ku bakana Ana aznân Undu abad Ku ganaga Tur ganâd abanul Durin ku bin-amrad Uzbad Khazad-dûmu Ku baraka Aznân ra karaka atkât ala lukhudizu! ala galabizu! ala ukratizu! Khazad-dûm! Doug Shore makes no mention of the voices in the FOTR Annotated Score. |
 
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| Turesse |
Posted: Mar 17 2006, 02:51 AM
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My guess...
[02:48] Ku [02:49] ba [02:50] ka [02:54] na [02:58] A [03:01] na [03:02] az [03:05] nan... [03:07] Kha [03:09] zad [03:15] dûm! for the CR...? [00:34] Ku [00:35] ba [00:36] ka [00:40] na [00:44] A [00:47] na [00:48] az [00:51] nan... [00:53] Kha [00:55] zad [01:01] dûm! These are really hard to hear! Also, I don't have the CR, so those stamps may or may not be correct. (I doubt they are anyway  ) |
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| magpie |
Posted: Mar 17 2006, 09:08 PM
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I would have to take any work regarding this section completely on faith. I have almost no hope of teasing out the voices from the music.
I will say that I think I can hear 'kaz' at 3:07 which encourages me. If anyone wants to weigh in at this moment, do so. If not, I'll probably publish your opinions with our caveats. The floor is always open for comments and further work, however. (Turesse, I deleted your extra post and your post on the extra post. Did you have the option of delete yourself? I'm not sure what options you have. I might be able to help you with some resource materials if I can contact you off the boards. You could register so I could leave you a private message, or you could find my email address at my website and email me. If you don't wish to do either, that's fine.) |
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| magpie |
Posted: Apr 15 2006, 07:29 PM
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I'm listening again, and it seems to me that I can hear voices as early as 2:42, which is earlier than Turesse is hearing things.
Turesse, are you hearing things at 2:42? I'd love to get some other opinions since my own opinion is kind of useless. |
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| Turesse |
Posted: Apr 15 2006, 08:01 PM
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Yes, I forgot to mention that I heard a few syllables there that I couldn't figure out.
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| magpie |
Posted: Apr 15 2006, 08:04 PM
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Okay... I have to decide to wait for other ears or publish your 'guess'. How are you feeling about your guess? Good enough to put it out there, or unsure enough to wait for other opinions?
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| Turesse |
Posted: Jun 16 2006, 04:18 PM
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I'm not quite sure - I'd say wait for other opinions.
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| magpie |
Posted: Jun 24 2006, 01:58 AM
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Okay, Turesse. Since you're not real sure, and I can't hear anything, I'm going to add a link to this thread on my site for this music. I'm hoping we'll get someone else to weigh in with their opinion. Thanks for giving us a start.
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| minasmorgul |
Posted: Nov 22 2006, 06:27 PM
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or also an ent. Group: Members Posts: 85 Member No.: 18 Joined: 20-November 06 |
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0:00 : durin ku bin amrad bin amrad bin amrad...*. durin ku bin amrad bin amrad bin amrad...* [til 0:10 but again before 0:34 ??] 0:34 Durin 0:36 Uz- 0:37 bad 0:38 Kha 0:39 zad 0:40 Dûmu 0:42 Ku 0:43 ba(kana) 0:44 ku ba- 0::45 kana 0:46 ana aznan 0:47 ku ( ?) 0:48 baka- 0 :49 na 0 :52 /du-... 0:56 uz- 0:57 bad/ rin 0:58 kha 0 :59 / zad 1:00 /dûmu 1 :01 uz- 1 :02 bad /Kha 1:04 zad dû- 1:05 mu... !} Durin ku bin amrad bin amrad.. :Durin who is deathless deathless... Durin uzbad Khazad Dûmu : Durin lord of khazad dum ku bakana ana aznan : Who awoke from the darkness ... : Syllable longer than a normal syllable (baaaaa= ba...); . or (.) : Short or long break between two syllables, words or sentences; - : when there is a break in a same word; ~ : Bond or very close to the next when both aren't forming a same word; tha = Italic is a repetition of syllable for a same word.; (tham) : Missing part of word ; [fading > till about 1:53] : Commentary /: Separation if there are several solo or choir or both {! [00:29] neg !} : Can be (very) difficult to hear with a normal listenning. ( heard with manipulation of receiver (Level of central speaker with home cinema installation augmented or other changes) Colors of certainty : -Grey : Problematic -Red : No really certain -Orange : It's really possible-Blue: Almost certain or modest before other comments. -Green: Certain to hear or/and I think is resolved too * very weak like a top of mountain’s crest alight from behind |
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| magpie |
Posted: Oct 11 2008, 08:27 PM
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Final answer from FOTR Live symphony choral lyrics:
CR-FOTR Track: Balin's Tomb; 2-14 00:00 Ku 00:04 ba 00:08 ka 00:09 na 00:12 a 00:16 na 00:20 az 00:24 nan 00:28 un 00:32 du 00:36 ab 00:38 ad 00:40 un 00:42 du 00:43 ab 00:44 ad 00:48 ku 00:52 ga 00:56 na 00:58 ga 01:00 az 01:02 nan So, the text is: Ku bakana Ana aznân Undu abad Undu abad Ku ganaga Aznân I know it is difficult to hear them since almost all syllables have "a" sound in them, so the singing mostly sounds like constant "ah". But, this is the text which is sung. Thanks to Sabsi and Danijel. RESOLVED |
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