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| magpie |
Posted: Nov 18 2007, 03:17 AM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 400 Member No.: 1 Joined: 15-February 06 |
CR-ROTK D05 The Journey to the Grey Havens ROTK-OST, Track 18, The Grey Havens There are a lot of humming voices in this track. The AS-ROTK only mentions humming voices. But I think I remember reading that lyrics came in at the end and I determined the line & times stamps for the ROTK-OST track 18, The Grey Havens, to be: [05:16] Am [05:23] rûn [05:27] n'A [05:31] nor [05:34] An [05:38] nûn [05:41] n'I [05:45] thil and said this:
I've listened briefly to the CR-ROTK track and it's not jumping out at me. I'll have to see if I can dig out that quote and take a closer listen at some point. |
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| magpie |
Posted: Jan 12 2008, 03:59 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 400 Member No.: 1 Joined: 15-February 06 |
Okay... here is some info. Sometimes I'm very explicit in my references and resources but I wasn't with this one and now I have to go track down what I found re: this piece. the source text, "The Grey Havens" was found on the DVD that came with the ROTK Special Edition Soundtrack. The entire text is on my website: The Grey Havens From Music From the Movies magazine, issue 42, page 78
Single quotes seem to be used in throughout this issue to refer to themes, compositions, songs, etc. I might have thought "you start to hear little bits of 'The Grey Havens'" referred to the song, The Grey Havens. But it could have just referred to the composition or the theme of the same name. Howard does go on to specifically say "They are singing in Sindarin." This piece of sheet music is provided on page 77 with the source text. Go HERE (try right clicking or control clicking on that link and opening it in a new tab or window) notice it says, "Frodo boards the ship with Bilbo, Galadriel, and Gandalf at the Grey Havens". There's nothing in the ROTK Audio Commentary. And I don't remember, off hand, the singing getting discussed at moviemusic. So the magazine must have been my sole resource. I think I read it carefully, perhaps assuming the song The Grey Havens started when Frodo leaves Sam to get on the ship. But why pick that particular line out of the source text? Something tells me I would not have done that had I not some hint that was the line used but what that hint might have been, I cannot recall. I notice now that here, in the magazine, the source text is called "Frodo's Song". (Remember on the DVD from the SE Soundtrack, it was called "The Grey Havens") The AS-ROTK says this:
So, perhaps Howard's comment that he used Sindarin lyrics predated the decision to switch (back?) to the humming choir. This does make sense to me. It's clear that some of the information provided via the sheet music in the MftM magazine is not correct in regards to the movie/soundtrack releases. So perhaps the articles were just researched and written too early in the editing phase to be used as 100% accurate resources. I think this is what I'll ultimately go with in regards to my website but I am interested in what people think. I have soundclips for this portion of the CR, OST, and EE movie. If anyone wants them, they can reply here, PM me, or email me and I'll provide them. It does seem to me that the quality of the choir's voices changes at this spot. Instead of a distinctive 'hmmm' it's more 'ahhh' sounding. That, along with the action on screen, helped me believe this was the spot where the singing started. But perhaps they're just 'ahh-ing'. |
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| magpie |
Posted: May 13 2010, 11:02 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 400 Member No.: 1 Joined: 15-February 06 |
PER ROTK LIVE CHOIR LYRICS - ALL SINGING PAST THE ARRIVAL OF ARWEN IS CLOSED MOUTH HUMMING.
FINAL RESOLUTION |
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