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 34. Gandalf arrives at Helm's Deep, FINAL RESOLUTION
minasmorgul
Posted: Dec 29 2006, 02:52 AM


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FINAL RESOLUTION ACHIEVED

In "Théoden Rides Forth" CR TTT Disc 3, Track 12

Lyrics from "The Mearas"

00:42 scea
00:43 du
00:44 faex


01:15 and-
01:16 swa-
01:17 rod

??

01:21 sceadu
01:22 faex
01:23 and-
01:24 swa-
01:25 rod

01:27 and-
01:28 swa-
01:29 rod

??

01:32 bu-
01:33 tan an-
01:34 ne
01:35 but
01:37 tan an-
01:38 ne
01:39 an-
01:42 ne...
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Sabsi
Posted: Jan 2 2007, 02:15 AM


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I compared it with the time stamps done for the OST, but since there were only two lines (for ðon hé waes Sceadufæx / hláford ealra méara) to work with, we should consider the 'new' lines given to us in the AS.

Ben Del Maestro's solo:

SURE:
01:14 for
01:15 ðon
01:18 hé
01:20 wæs
01:21 scea
01:22 du (the time stamps done for the OST have 'hé', but I'm sure about 'du')
01:23 fæx

the second part is more difficult to make out- every time I listen to it, I hear 'horsefather, mighty, to all horses' blink.gif Since that's rather unlikely I think it's:

01:26 ands-
01:27 wa-
01:29 ro-
01:30 de bu-
01:34 tan (ánne ?)
01:36 hé
01:38 fæx
01:42 hlá

I'm pretty sure about 'andswarode bu-', but not so sure about the rest...


Chorus:
I think the time stamps are the same as those done for the OST:

01:14 for
01:18 ðon
01:22 hé
01:26 wæs
02:30 Scea
02:34 du
01:38 fæx
01:42 hlá
01:46 ford
01:50 ea
01:54 ra (I think I can hear a second syllable, but that could be a drawn out 'a')
01:57 méa
01:59 ra


concerning 0:42-0:46
To be honest, I can't hear 'Sceadufæx' unsure.gif I know it's in the AS, but all I can hear are two syllables that COULD be 'Sceadu' sad.gif


Edit: On a second (third and forth) listen: It's rather 'Sceatu' than 'Sceadu'... dry.gif

This post has been edited by Sabsi on Jan 2 2007, 11:39 AM
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minasmorgul
Posted: Jan 2 2007, 02:51 AM


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QUOTE (Sabsi @ Jan 2 2007, 03:15 AM)



concerning 0:42-0:46
To be honest, I can't hear 'Sceadufæx' unsure.gif I know it' in the AS, but all I can hear are two syllables that COULD be 'Sceadu' sad.gif

in fact I have heard more than nothing else

tah
du
fachs

that is the phonetic lyrics that are giving to the singers as magpie wrote it some where.

in the A.S it's writting that "shadowfax (sceadufaex) " is sung, but with I have hear I think that is sceadufaex not shadowfeax (there is something too. In the book of the TTT-CR for "Théoden King")
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magpie
Posted: Apr 1 2007, 10:30 PM


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Re:
0:42
I can only hear two syllables. mm mentioned phonetic syllables but those were given to the Symphony choir to be sung at Fangorn. We can't be sure they apply here for this declaration. I would comment that the 'tu' is very odd but there quite a few oddities in those phonetic lyrics.

And, like Sabsi, I can hear a 't' sound. Looking around the lyrics I don't see a lot of 't' sounds but this one 'hwite' stands out. It would be two syllables, the last being something like 'teh'. This could be what we're hearing. 'Hwite' means 'white' and it's sung just as Gandalf is seen on the rise. It's perfect, don't ya think?

I know it doesn't agree with Doug but Doug hasn't been 100% right.


Re solo from 1:14 - 1:41

I had the sheet music for this piece and the OST lyrics come from that. I went into the sound file and monkeyed with the frequencies and I can hear these syllables. Therefore, I'm sticking with them. The time stamps would be:

[01:14] for
[01:15] ðon
[01:17] hé
[01:20] wæs
[01:21] scea
[01:22] du (I agree with you, Sabsi... the sheet music is clearly mistaken here)
[01:23] fæx
[01:26] wæs
[01:27] ford
[01:28] eal
[01:30] ra
[01:31] mé
[01:34] du
[01:35] and
[01:36] hé
[01:38] fæx
[01:41] hlá


As to the chorus: Sabsi and I agree

so....

CONFIRMED BY TTT LIVE CHOIR LYRICS

FINAL RESOLUTION
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