pilots 4 truth new discussion on plane speeds

[genghis6199]

Speeds Reported For World Trade Center Attack Aircraft Analyzed

For Immediate Release

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Much controversy has surrounded the speeds reported for the World Trade Center attack aircraft. However, none of the arguments for either side of the debate have been properly based on actual data, until now. Pilots For 9/11 Truth have recently analyzed data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board in terms of a "Radar Data Impact Speed Study" in which the NTSB concludes 510 knots and 430 knots for United 175 (South Tower) and American 11 (North Tower), respectively. A benchmark has been set by the October 1999 crash of Egypt Air 990, a 767 which exceeded it's maximum operating limits causing in-flight structural failure, of which data is available to compare to the WTC Attack Aircraft.

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510 knots? after conversion that's VERY FAST.
i make it about 640 mph!!..

and that's FLIGHT 11 !!!

they seemed to have trimmed 175, i dunno why ,
just to make it to the target it needs to travel at over 550 mph.
and the videos show close to 590 as an average...

where did they pull that ever so helpful under-estimation from?

[angel]

Nice find Mr. G!

I glad to see some hard evidence.

[genghis6199]

i just realised there is a really important number no-one has ever found.
i feel a little silly thinking about it so late,

but the total number of miles the planes travel is very important.
we know how long they were in the air,
but a total miles travelled number would
be quite hard to calculate. but VERY important.
it gives us a minimum average speed.

the "nosedive" excuse is partially cancelled due to the fact that a
nosedive is a longer line than a flat trajectory
[just like going over a hill is longer than going thru the tunnel]
this extra is not accounted for in flight charts or maps.
it is a changing figure depending on flgiht characteristics [alt, climb rate etc.]

so even the ground measurements have to be beefed up for ascent and descent.
the true number will be generously higher than land measurements or "as the crow flies" measurements. both are under-estimative.

i don't even think a planes equipment would record it!.
the measurements it uses are based on land directly below the plane no matter what.
it would not include the extra distance as distance, but as fuel usage to get to altitude.
[they have a formula which adds take off amounts].