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Title: F7F Tigercat Nose Wheel Well Photos needed


Starfighter Decals - January 16, 2013 04:02 PM (GMT)
Need some help guys. I am working on a Wheel Well set for the Monogram F7F-3 kit. I have most of the Main Gear wells done, so I'm moving on to the nose. My Ginter book has no pictures of the Nose Gear Well. Neither does the S&S F7F in Action.

Anyone have any leads on some photos? I must be missing a book, walk around, or other source of info.

I knew I should have taken pictures when I was at the NMNA in August :angry:

InchHigh - January 16, 2013 04:43 PM (GMT)

Starfighter Decals - January 16, 2013 09:56 PM (GMT)
That's the front of the well. Now I need the back.

Many thanks! ^_^

Steve N - January 18, 2013 01:11 AM (GMT)
I shot a complete walkaround of the Tigercat formerly owned by the Kalamazoo Air Zoo some years ago. Here's everything I have of the wheelwells. Let me know if you need any more detail pics (although the cockpits are not stock.)

SN

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Starfighter Decals - January 18, 2013 02:23 PM (GMT)
Oh YEA! :ph43r:

Many thanks!

RJ Tucker - January 18, 2013 08:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Starfighter Decals @ Jan 16 2013, 12:02 PM)
Need some help guys. I am working on a Wheel Well set for the Monogram F7F-3 kit. I have most of the Main Gear wells done, so I'm moving on to the nose. My Ginter book has no pictures of the Nose Gear Well. Neither does the S&S F7F in Action.

Anyone have any leads on some photos? I must be missing a book, walk around, or other source of info.

I knew I should have taken pictures when I was at the NMNA in August :angry:

About when do you think these will done? I've got a F7F-3N in the cue.

Navy Bird - January 19, 2013 01:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Steve N @ Jan 18 2013, 01:11 AM)
I shot a complete walkaround of the Tigercat formerly owned by the Kalamazoo Air Zoo some years ago.  Here's everything I have of the wheelwells.  Let me know if you need any more detail pics (although the cockpits are not stock.)

SN

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This doesn't show what is in the rear portion of the front gear well, as the rear doors are closed. For what it's worth, and I have no idea whether it's accurate or not, the 1:72 resin front wheel well from Aires shows that there is a circular depression in the roof of the rear portion of the wheel well. This is for the front tire to set into when the gear is retracted. The other detail in the Aires part seems to match what we see here, so maybe that's a good sign that it's reasonably correct.

Cheers,
Bill

PS. Mark, I just received the decals I ordered from you yesterday. Many thanks, they look great! Not only do I have some markings for my current Tigercat project, but I now also have F2A, F4F, and F8F schemes for my Felix the Cat collection. How cool is that? :)

Starfighter Decals - January 19, 2013 02:25 PM (GMT)
Thanks again everybody for your help. It's been a tremendous help. I saw stuff I needed to fix in the main wells to boot.

I hope to add the rivet details today. If everything passes the Final Test fitting, I should have the set on the way to the caster next week. It will be the wells only, no doors, hinges or actuators. I want to do those as PE, but until I get this PE mess straighten out ( and it's looking good finally) I don't want to wait. So some scrathbuilding may be in order for the super detailing folks to make some nice doors and actuators/hinges.

So look for this set in March/April timeframe.


Navy Bird - January 19, 2013 04:09 PM (GMT)
Great news! Have you thought about resin wheels/tires? The closest you can get now are either Avenger or Navy Skyraider wheels/tires, they've got the right hub but the wrong tire for in-service Tigercats. Those had a diamond tread pattern (like you see on the Hellcat). The modern air racers and restorations all have a smooth tread with straight lines, and the replacement Avenger and Skyraider parts are made like that.

Cheers,
Bill

Starfighter Decals - January 19, 2013 06:05 PM (GMT)
That exceeds my talent. Sorry.

renscho - January 19, 2013 06:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Starfighter Decals @ Jan 19 2013, 06:05 PM)
That exceeds my talent. Sorry.

Mark...

We love ya anyway.

:P

Steve N - January 20, 2013 02:52 PM (GMT)
I checked through my pics again...somehow I missed this one the first time around. It shows a bit more of the back of the nosewheel well.

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And just for chuckles, here's the nose gear showing the inside of the door and attachments, if you're thinking of including those in the PE.

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Cheers!

Steve

Starfighter Decals - January 20, 2013 05:55 PM (GMT)
Again, more great stuff. Does anyone know if this is a F7F-4N, or another version? I always believe pictures more than drawings, but I have a drawing that shows a piston attached to an actuator that retracts the Nose gear. It's not in the photos posted so far. Maybe this was only in the -1 or -3.

Main Gear well is done. Just need to nail down this piston/actuator on the stbd side detail, then the Nose well is finished.

Navy Bird - January 20, 2013 11:56 PM (GMT)
Hi Mark!

How soon could a rabid modeler get his hands on the main gear wells? I'm using the Aires Super Detailing set, and the main gear wells are constructed out of photoetch. And, quite frankly, they stink big time. Don't look accurate, don't fit in the Monogram nacelles very well, etc. I'm building this kit with expectation that I'll have it done in time for Noreastcon in the beginning of May. I could give you some free advertising!

Cheers,
Bill

Steve N - January 21, 2013 12:17 AM (GMT)
The aircraft in my photos is F7F-3P BuNo 80390. It has a back seat, but I think that may have been a later addition to allow passengers. It spent many year flying as a water bomber, and either didn't have a rear cockpit or it was sheet-metaled over.

I used to love watching Bob Ellis "mow the grass" with her back in the 90s. Unfortunately the Air Zoo grounded it's collection in 2000. The Tigercat was sold to Rod Lewis a few years ago. It's flying again, albeit with a really stupid nose art.

SN

Starfighter Decals - January 21, 2013 09:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Navy Bird @ Jan 20 2013, 11:56 PM)
Hi Mark!

How soon could a rabid modeler get his hands on the main gear wells? I'm using the Aires Super Detailing set, and the main gear wells are constructed out of photoetch. And, quite frankly, they stink big time. Don't look accurate, don't fit in the Monogram nacelles very well, etc. I'm building this kit with expectation that I'll have it done in time for Noreastcon in the beginning of May. I could give you some free advertising!

Cheers,
Bill

March/April is what I'm shooting for.

Starfighter Decals - January 21, 2013 09:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Steve N @ Jan 21 2013, 12:17 AM)
The aircraft in my photos is F7F-3P BuNo 80390. It has a back seat, but I think that may have been a later addition to allow passengers. It spent many year flying as a water bomber, and either didn't have a rear cockpit or it was sheet-metaled over.

I used to love watching Bob Ellis "mow the grass" with her back in the 90s. Unfortunately the Air Zoo grounded it's collection in 2000. The Tigercat was sold to Rod Lewis a few years ago. It's flying again, albeit with a really stupid nose art.

SN

-3P were the photo-recon version. No back seat. So it has been modified lots over the years. Not always a good things when it comes to doing proper period stuff. Still helps me and many thanks.




Steve N - January 22, 2013 03:00 AM (GMT)
I thought the back seat was likely a retrofit..and believe me, that rear cockpit is tiny. The canopy has a bulge in it for head clearance, but your knees would still likely be up your nose.

As you mention, the aircraft likely has a lot of non-stock mods, a legacy of her firefighting days. When I was a volunteer at the museum, I was told that this particular aircraft actually flew a few recon missions over Japan during the Occupation.

SN

Steve N - January 22, 2013 05:20 AM (GMT)
For what it's worth, I just posted every detail shot I have of the F7F in the Walkarounds section.

Enjoy!

Steve

Navy Bird - January 22, 2013 01:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Steve N @ Jan 22 2013, 05:20 AM)
For what it's worth, I just posted every detail shot I have of the F7F in the Walkarounds section.

Enjoy!

Steve

Thanks!!!

Cheers,
Bill




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